Business Stated" " *** and his son, they are takersI am a non profit business that tries to pass on the teaching of a great martial arts teacherI already sent the patches you don't get a teaching credential for nothingYou have to earn itThey have to perform the dances and yet demands certificationIt does not work like thatYou cant go to school, get the education, and graduate for feeThere are fees involvedThere no refundIf he presents a video of of his Kata, which consist of 14-dance forms , and history Kata, I will review them to see if he is knowledgeable to received his certification, but but he cant demand a teaching certificate and not earn it"
*** ***I hope you remember our phone call. My writing isn't close to what my conversation ability.Regarding *** ***.First ask him to show copy of money order. It states Present.This gentleman and his father Srboth have taken from me without paying. No complaints from me
though.These gentlemen were given enough videos, along with patches to become a teacher in my association.I only rank at 5th Degree black belt. Its a teacher of teachers position. The information for their ranking is available on the inter net. *** Srwas reprimanded by another instructor this year for lying about being a grandmaster in the Martial Arts. They both claim high ranking but the ranking is from Self promotion nothing from a real school orkarate association other then their own.They are scam artist. Calling karate Masters claiming to be high ranking to get a RANK of recognition. Upon others who request copy of their official ranking or to perform karate on inter to display abilities their not able.*** Jrhas contacted by teacher *** *** ** **., for him to teach ***'s schools our karate system and he'll pay per dojo. They self promoted themselves so much that trying to get proper credentials throughlies, and not earning. One has to learned all katas along with weapons katas and know the break down moves of all these dance forms. Its earned through learning NOT BY PAYING and requesting certification.I will not return a penny of what he sent. The materials furnished fare surpass this little dollar presentas stated on money order.Head InstructorSHOKA (Soken Hohan's Orthodox Association
I am rejecting this response because I want my money back and [redacted] is making false statements. I have attached a photo of the money order I sent, letter, and the envelope it was sent in. The money order did not have "Present" written on it. Whatever happens between [redacted] Sr. and [redacted] has nothing to do with me. I did not receive anything from [redacted] what so ever.
I am rejecting this response because: the business is not non profit, I sent [redacted] $115 for patches and a certificate that he clearly never sent. What goes on between my father [redacted] Sr. and [redacted] has nothing to do with me and getting what I paid for, I just want I paid for or my money back. The money was never intended as a present or a donation to a non profit organization.
Business Stated" " *** and his son, they are takersI am a non profit business that tries to pass on the teaching of a great martial arts teacherI already sent the patches you don't get a teaching credential for nothingYou have to earn itThey have to perform the dances and yet demands certificationIt does not work like thatYou cant go to school, get the education, and graduate for feeThere are fees involvedThere no refundIf he presents a video of of his Kata, which consist of 14-dance forms , and history Kata, I will review them to see if he is knowledgeable to received his certification, but but he cant demand a teaching certificate and not earn it"
*** ***I hope you remember our phone call. My writing isn't close to what my conversation ability.Regarding *** ***.First ask him to show copy of money order. It states Present.This gentleman and his father Srboth have taken from me without paying. No complaints from me
though.These gentlemen were given enough videos, along with patches to become a teacher in my association.I only rank at 5th Degree black belt. Its a teacher of teachers position. The information for their ranking is available on the inter net. *** Srwas reprimanded by another instructor this year for lying about being a grandmaster in the Martial Arts. They both claim high ranking but the ranking is from Self promotion nothing from a real school orkarate association other then their own.They are scam artist. Calling karate Masters claiming to be high ranking to get a RANK of recognition. Upon others who request copy of their official ranking or to perform karate on inter to display abilities their not able.*** Jrhas contacted by teacher *** *** ** **., for him to teach ***'s schools our karate system and he'll pay per dojo. They self promoted themselves so much that trying to get proper credentials throughlies, and not earning. One has to learned all katas along with weapons katas and know the break down moves of all these dance forms. Its earned through learning NOT BY PAYING and requesting certification.I will not return a penny of what he sent. The materials furnished fare surpass this little dollar presentas stated on money order.Head InstructorSHOKA (Soken Hohan's Orthodox Association
I am rejecting this response because I want my money back and [redacted] is making false statements. I have attached a photo of the money order I sent, letter, and the envelope it was sent in. The money order did not have "Present" written on it. Whatever happens between [redacted] Sr. and [redacted] has nothing to do with me. I did not receive anything from [redacted] what so ever.
I am rejecting this response because: the business is not non profit, I sent [redacted] $115 for patches and a certificate that he clearly never sent. What goes on between my father [redacted] Sr. and [redacted] has nothing to do with me and getting what I paid for, I just want I paid for or my money back. The money was never intended as a present or a donation to a non profit organization.