BuckDaddys Hunting Club

Ms*** who wrote this on behalf of her husband. She was not involved in all the discussions, except for times, and is portraying the facts incorrectly, up to and including statements that BuckDaddys has been non-responsive. We have been in contact with them on
several occasions, including yesterday. I can provide the signed Bylaws Agreement after I obtain it from my file tonight, but I have attached a copy of the Bylaws (to which he agreed to at the time he applied) for your information. In addition, below is a copy of the correspondence that we did sent them which they deny receiving (yet she responded to!) A few more points. As a policy, and as stated in the agreement signed by every member, therefore it is acknowledged and agreed to, BuckDaddys does not refund membership fees or camp fees. This member resigned in July, 2016. BuckDaddys was within its full legal rights to resell the membership so nothing improper occurred. Further, not once did these people deny that they fabricated a reason to create an extenuating circumstance in order to induce BuckDaddys to permit a membership transfer and trigger a partial refund. After "multiple communications with them, and AFTER the new member was accepted to the club, the wife told me the reason he asked for a refund was because he purchased two leases and only needed one, NOT that she was sick and they had pressing medical bills! They knew from signing the Bylaws agreement that we do not give refunds and clearly fabricated a story to try to get some money back. Further, we have been in contact, unlike what she claims above. we had multiple communications with them, and in each of those conversations, they never denied lying, but rather acknowledged that they did, then asked us to honor our agreement (which was based on fraud). Any agreement on our part that was induced by his false statement is unenforceable, as well as the fact that we reserve the right to reverse our decisions if fraud is found out after the fact. Regardless of this, I would like to point you to the last paragraph, in which I state that while we are under no obligation to do so, we will process a partial refund based on the formula found in the Bylaws at our convenience, which will likely be this upcoming weekend. _______________9/25/16: sent 6:pm.Ms*** I am in receipt of your communications, and will respond to you accordingly. So you understand the facts, your husband called in July and resigned his membership, and we accepted his resignation. BuckDaddys does not give refunds for resignations, as stated in multiple places throughout the Bylaw Agreement, of which your husband signed. Your husband then committed fraud upon BuckDaddys by fabricating a story to create an extenuating circumstance to induce BuckDaddys to agree to 'transfer' his membership to another, even though it was (a) past the deadline to transfer memberships, and (b) there was no one to transfer the membership to at the time, all in an effort to obtain a "partial" refund based on the formula outlined in the Bylaws. Your husband told us that you had cancer and he was needing to direct all of his money towards medical bills, which induced us to agree to making an exception, and allowing a late transfer, based on these extenuating circumstances, if another person was found. Notwithstanding this, based on his resignation, BuckDaddys was and remains fully within its right to re-sell his membership 'without' issuing any amount of refund to him. On the other hand, the partial refund we agreed to entertain was based on a self-created, and untrue reason, which we did not learn about until after the new member joined, months later. (More on that below.)However, based on his resignation, instructed him to return his membership packet, as his cards were no longer valid. Then, after several months, he called to say he found a person to transfer his membership to, (and also stating this person had been nagging him to do this for months, yet he waited.) He then asked us to just transfer the membership to this person with no formal processing or consideration being exchanged, which we don't do (and had to explain, although all of this is in the bylaws and he should have known). The recipient of the transferred membership would have to go through the membership enrollment process, by submitting his application, paying for his membership, after which, and again, based on the fraudulent extenuating circumstance he presented which was fabricated, we would apply the formula and issue a partial refund once everything cleared.The Bylaws clearly state BuckDaddys has the right to resell any membership under certain circumstances, including resignation. But because of your supposed cancer and his need for money for medical bills, as he told us, we agreed to permit the transfer, where we would have not otherwise permitted it. Now imagine my utter surprise and shock to hear you say the reason for his wanting the refund was because he simply joined clubs, and wanted a refund. That is a cut and dry case of fraud, upon which we relied, to our detriment and harm. I was trying to wrap my head around this and stated I would see if we would honor it, and conveyed what happened to the President of BuckDaddys, where he instructed me to reverse our decision, which is permitted by the BylawsLet's be clear. Your husband resigned because he joined another club, not due to any extenuating medical circumstance. We do not give refunds for resignations, and we are fully within our right to resell any membership. We agreed to do the morally right thing and transfer the membership to 'help you ', based on a fabricated lie, even though it was long past the deadline to do so and he had no one to transfer it to. When he 'finally' found someone to transfer it to, he told me he dragged his feet for over a month while this person "begged" him to call us. Then after the fact, during a call from you, the truth came out. You told us he joined two clubs and just wanted his money back for this one. We do not take kindly to being blatantly lied to or fraudulently induced to do something we normally would not do, especially when others are held to these standards.Finally, please know that we are on the right side of this circumstance. In fact, I should know. I live in the world of legal issues and legal assessments every day. I personally have more than 3,courtroom trial hours and work with prominent trial attorneys at a prominent law firm as a senior trial paralegal We are the good guys, and if our client did something wrong, it would be corrected. In this case, we have not done anything wrong. We agreed to exercise a very rare exception to help your family (while staying within the Bylaws) based on a fraud your husband committed to get some money back. And simply put, agreements based on fraud, are not enforceable. With that said, and too much time taken out of my pressing schedule, (as I am right now in the middle of trial work even on this Sunday), if you are wanting us to provide some sort of partial refund after I get our newly migrated site fully and properly operational and our credit card processing issue worked out, AND I am past these trial deadlines which should occur by next weekend, I will review this matter again, apply the formula based on the date Renato joined and his payment cleared, and issue a partial refund then - and only then. Since there is no urgency because you clearly do not have cancer, nor are there any pressing urgent medical bills, I expect this to be acceptable. If it is not, please let me know immediately, and I will simply reverse our decision and stand on the grounds that the President told me to as permitted by the Bylaws. Susan W***

Ms. [redacted] who wrote this on behalf of her husband.  She was not involved in all the discussions, except for 2 times, and is portraying the facts incorrectly, up to and including statements that BuckDaddys has been non-responsive.  We have been in contact with them on...

several occasions, including yesterday.  I can provide the signed Bylaws Agreement after I obtain it from my file tonight, but I have attached a copy of the Bylaws (to which he agreed to at the time he applied) for your information.  In addition, below is a copy of the correspondence that we did sent them which they deny receiving (yet she responded to!)  A few more points.  As a policy, and as stated in the agreement signed by every member, therefore it is acknowledged and agreed to, BuckDaddys does not refund membership fees or camp fees.  This member resigned in July, 2016.  BuckDaddys was within its full legal rights to resell the membership so nothing improper occurred.  Further, not once did these people deny that they fabricated a false reason to create an extenuating circumstance in order to induce BuckDaddys to permit a membership transfer and trigger a partial refund.  After "multiple communications with them, and AFTER the new member was accepted to the club, the wife told me the reason he asked for a refund was because he purchased two leases and only needed one, NOT that she was sick and they had pressing medical bills!  They knew from signing the Bylaws agreement that we do not give refunds and clearly fabricated a story to try to get some money back.   Further, we have been in contact, unlike what she claims above.  we had multiple communications with them, and in each of those conversations, they never denied lying, but rather acknowledged that they did, then asked us to honor our agreement (which was based on fraud). Any agreement on our part that was induced by his false statement is unenforceable, as well as the fact that we reserve the right to reverse our decisions if fraud is found out after the fact.   Regardless of this, I would like to point you to the last paragraph, in which I state that while we are under no obligation to do so, we will process a partial refund based on the formula found in the Bylaws at our convenience, which will likely be this upcoming weekend.   _______________9/25/16: sent 6:55 pm.Ms. [redacted] I am in receipt of your communications, and will respond to you accordingly.  So you understand the facts, your husband called in July and resigned his membership, and we accepted his resignation.  BuckDaddys does not give refunds for resignations, as stated in multiple places throughout the Bylaw Agreement, of which your husband signed.  Your husband then committed fraud upon BuckDaddys by fabricating a story to create an extenuating circumstance to induce BuckDaddys to agree to 'transfer' his membership to another, even though it was (a) past the deadline to transfer memberships, and (b) there was no one to transfer the membership to at the time, all in an effort to obtain a "partial" refund based on the formula outlined in the Bylaws.  Your husband told us that you had cancer and he was needing to direct all of his money towards medical bills, which induced us to agree to making an exception, and allowing a late transfer, based on these extenuating circumstances, if another person was found.  Notwithstanding this, based on his resignation, BuckDaddys was and remains fully within its right to re-sell his membership 'without' issuing any amount of refund to him.  On the other hand, the partial refund we agreed to entertain was based on a self-created, and untrue reason, which we did not learn about until after the new member joined, months later.  (More on that below.)However, based on his resignation, instructed him to return his membership packet, as his cards were no longer valid.  Then, after several months, he called to say he found a person to transfer his membership to, (and also stating this person had been nagging him to do this for months, yet he waited.)  He then asked us to just transfer the membership to this person with no formal processing or consideration being exchanged, which we don't do (and had to explain, although all of this is in the bylaws and he should have known).  The recipient of the transferred membership would have to go through the normal membership enrollment process, by submitting his application, paying for his membership, after which, and again, based on the fraudulent extenuating circumstance he presented which was fabricated, we would apply the formula and issue a partial refund once everything cleared.The Bylaws clearly state BuckDaddys has the right to resell any membership under certain circumstances, including resignation.  But because of your supposed cancer and his need for money for medical bills, as he told us, we agreed to permit the transfer, where we would have not otherwise permitted it.  Now imagine my utter surprise and shock to hear you say the reason for his wanting the refund was because he simply joined 2 clubs, and wanted a refund.  That is a cut and dry case of fraud, upon which we relied, to our detriment and harm.  I was trying to wrap my head around this and stated I would see if we would honor it, and conveyed what happened to the President of BuckDaddys, where he instructed me to reverse our decision, which is permitted by the Bylaws. Let's be clear.  Your husband resigned because he joined another club, not due to any extenuating medical circumstance.  We do not give refunds for resignations, and we are fully within our right to resell any membership.  We agreed to do the morally right thing and transfer the membership to 'help you ',  based on a fabricated lie, even though it was long past the deadline to do so and he had no one to transfer it to.  When he 'finally' found someone to transfer it to, he told me he dragged his feet for over a month while this person "begged" him to call us.  Then after the fact, during a call from you, the truth came out.  You told us he joined two clubs and just wanted his money back for this one.  We do not take kindly to being blatantly lied to or fraudulently induced to do something we normally would not do, especially when others are held to these standards.Finally, please know that we are on the right side of this circumstance.  In fact, I should know.  I live in the world of legal issues and legal assessments every day.  I personally have more than 3,000 courtroom trial hours and work with prominent trial attorneys at a prominent law firm as a senior trial paralegal  We are the good guys, and if our client did something wrong, it would be corrected.  In this case, we have not done anything wrong.  We agreed to exercise a very rare exception to help your family (while staying within the Bylaws) based on a fraud your husband committed to get some money back.  And simply put, agreements based on fraud, are not enforceable.  With that said, and too much time taken out of my pressing schedule, (as I am right now in the middle of trial work even on this Sunday), if you are wanting us to provide some sort of partial refund after I get our newly migrated site fully and properly operational and our credit card processing issue worked out, AND I am past these trial deadlines which should occur by next weekend, I will review this matter again, apply the formula based on the date Renato joined and his payment cleared, and issue a partial refund then - and only then.  Since there is no urgency because you clearly do not have cancer, nor are there any pressing urgent medical bills, I expect this to be acceptable.  If it is not, please let me know immediately, and I will simply reverse our decision and stand on the grounds that the President told me to as permitted by the Bylaws.  Susan W[redacted]