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Claims Service International

540 NW University Blvd, Port Saint Lucie, Florida, United States, 34986-2279

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All I learned from experience is that I will NEVER use the moving company using CSI for any damage/claims. They obviously do not know what they are doing as customer service as they are NOT helping us AT ALL.

I wouldn't give any stars since it's not even worth one star. but I had to in order to submit this message.

Claims Service International Response • Oct 26, 2018

We would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

The customers inadvertently allowed the time to expire to accept the settlement offer and called CSI upset at us. We were trying to tell them to go ahead and sign the release form and we will see if the mover will accept it. However, the customer began yelling at our representative and would not listen. We were trying to help them. They were too irate to even listen to our instructions on how to attempt to resolve their issue. If the customers would simply print their signed release form, hand sign it, verify the address is correct for the mover to send the check to- if not correct it directly on the release form, then scan or take a picture of the signed release form and return to ***@CSIPros.org; we will then send it to their mover to see if they will still honor it.

We regret that the customers felt the need to file a bad review. We trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our position on these matters.

Refusing to respond timely and appropriately to a claim related to an interstate move.
I filed a claim on April 17, 2018 for my move that was completed by Texas Top Movers DBA Denver Moving. I received a response nearly 2 months later from Samuel K on June 14, 2018 stating that I was only being compensated $150 for my lost and damaged items. In the itemized list it was indicated that I did not make the company aware of any problems with my move. I responded the same day advising him that I spoke with the moving company via phone during the move to express my concerns about the team members sent to me and I further noted on each inventory sheet above my signature that I was not given time to check all of the boxes. Again, I felt the need to document this fact because of the way the employees conducted themselves. Their conduct was also noted on my claim in the "complaint" section. Several items never were delivered to me and others were damaged. I even shared in the complaint section how the movers made several attempts to get me to accept property that did not belong to me and I refused. I had to force them to remove it from my home because they indicated they were not taking back and I could have it. There were other people in my home at the time who witnessed this.

As of today, July 3, 2018, Samuel K has not responded to my email about the notations on the contractual document about the issue. I have sent an email to him this morning, as I believe they are trying to let my 9 month period run out with these delays, so that I would not be compensated at all. I find this practice to be fradulent.

Desired Outcome

I want a greater settlement based upon the fact that I did notate I was not able to ensure all of the boxes had been received at the time of delivery.

Claims Service International Response • Jul 10, 2018

First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

The customer is not understanding that CSI must analyze claims based upon claims adjusting guidelines and the contract between the customer and the carrier. Per the carrier's applicable tariff it states that the customer must (in summary) note any missing items. A "global" statement that they have missing items is not sufficient to identify which items are missing. While the customer states that the movers were in a hurry and she had no time to count her boxes and note missing items, she did sign the documents and had time to write the statement she has missing items and could not count her items. While it may be difficult for the customer to get the movers to slow down for them to count her items and mark them off of the inventory sheets, when the movers hand them the paperwork to sign, the control is given back to them and that is when they must count and note any discrepancies.

Since CSI is a 3rd party claims company we must prove to the movers that each item claimed is their liability. We did not have that option with this move since the exact missing items were not listed/noted. We do not expect the customers to open every box, but to look for all TV's and checking off everything listed on the inventory sheets- counting boxes, etc.

The monetary compensation rate for each item we can prove is the liability of the customer is due to the customer's chosen valuation selection of $0.60 per pound per article. We have no bearing over that subject. The customer is the one who had full control of that selection.

Last, we sincerely apologize for the customer not receiving any correspondence with our adjuster. We have done research and Management has addressed this with the involved parties. Should the customer have any further questions they can call us at XXX-XXX-XXXX Monday through Friday 9am to 5pm EST or via email at ***@CSIPros.org. The nine month time frame is only applicable to allowing the customer time to file their claim. They have 9 months from the date they were delivered to file a claim. CSI, being a claims company, does not pay claims, any compensation due to the customer would come from their mover directly to the customer.

We regret that the customer felt the need to file a Revdex.com complaint. We trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our position on these matters.

Customer Response • Jul 17, 2018

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
The position that CSI is taking disregards my action to safeguard myself from being in this position given the conduct of the movers throughout the delivery time. The assertion that I should have "taken control" when I was given the paperwork indicates that I failed to take action and should have incited a confrontation with the same two men who had already demonstrated less than professional behavior.

Further Denver Moving indicated that $.60/lb is the only coverage they offer. So, I did not have options as CSI claims.

I firmly believe that the statements made by CSI villainize me. There opening statement presents as apologetic and the following paragraphs place all blame on me as the customer.

I firmly believe that CSI is aware of the fraud that happens with the moving companies, this one in particular. Given the reviews on the Revdex.com website and elsewhere on the internet, CSI should be keenly aware of how much it profits from scenarios as these.

As an insurance company, they are complicit in this type of scenario. The moving company picked CSI, not me. So, they have mutual financial interests that they seek to satisfy. In the interim, I spent over $4,000 for a swcure and stress-free move to only have the delivery go terribly wrong.

Claims Service International Response • Jul 20, 2018

CSI has no financial gain resulting from the customer's losses. CSI is NOT an insurance company. CSI is a 3rd party moving claims company who cannot bend Federal Regulations for neither the customers nor the carriers whom we analyze claims on behalf of. We MUST analyze claims within the limitations of the contract between the customer and the carrier. We cannot make any assumptions nor can we use hearsay. Everything must be in black or white; just like in a court of law. We have to prove everything. While the situation the customer speaks of may have occurred, it does not change the fact the documents are signed showing the customer selected $0.60 per pound per article and that is what we MUST use. If the customer took the paperwork to a judge how would they PROVE that the mover forced them to sign for the $0.60 per pound per article where the judge could verify that info? Please understand, we must follow the law at all times and cannot bend it for anyone. While it would please us to see the customer receive more compensation it is not something we can approve or instruct their mover to pay without PROVING it.

Customer Response • Aug 01, 2018

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
There appears to be no resolution.

Reviews show a consistent history of poor service by this company. Coverage by moving companies is $.60 per pound and CSI handles the claims. If you do the math you will find the coverage is unbelievably low. We received $18.00 for a 3 drawer file cabinet dented beyond repair. CSI sent a settlement check even though we refused to send documentation which was beyond reasonable for the item. We will not cash the check. Read the Revdex.com reviews and Yelp reviews before you do business with CSI or a moving company that uses them. Also note the responses by CSI starting with an apology followed by taking no responsibility due to customer shortcomings or federal regulations.

Claims Service International Response • Mar 30, 2018

Dear Mr. you are very right. The consistency is of customers mistaking us for an insurance company or the coverage provider. As so did you. CSI is only hired to determine settlement amounts based on the coverage and contract terms customers agree to when hiring the Movers. CSI has no advance knowledge on what coverage customers will select until they are referred to us to file a claim. We explain this on our website and on the very first encounter we have with every customer of all of the carriers we provide service to. If you look carefully at the check you have received you will see that it is not from CSI. Yet, your review will continue to give customers the wrong idea of who we are and what we do. Even after we respond to customers and explain both in writing and over the phone, it doesn't help because misleading reviews such as yours continue to cause damage and confusion due to lack of understanding our role. It is very unfortunate that our efforts to mediate go unseen and we have to pay a price for our hard work just because of reviews like this one. I hope that you will have the courtesy to correct your review after you do your due diligence and reread the documents related to both your move and your claim.

Customer Response • Apr 02, 2018

It is curious that you state CSI is consistently mistaken for an insurance company. Why is that? CSI again takes no responsibility for any of their actions and blames each customer for "lacking to understand our role". After so many negative reviews, why doesn't CSI take action to convey their role in the process proactively. CSI mediates on behalf of the mover and insurance company and I suggest their goal is to minimize payouts. Easier to be "misunderstood" and blame "lack of due diligence on my part". CSI should do their own due diligence regarding the significant number of complaints and recognize their part in the issues.

Refunding of the loss of items missing and damaged and food not returned.
items that were damaged is a curio cabinet a etched glass mirror door handles misc. figurines and missing items were several 5 gallon containers of emergency food containers as well as a dolly and electric leaf blower. The review of the listed items were only giving me back $ 123.00

Desired Outcome

To re-investigate my initial complaint filing # XXX-XXX and to re-evaluate my charges.

Claims Service International Response • Mar 15, 2018

First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

We would like inform you that Claims Service International (CSI) is not an insurance company and the customer's claim filed is not an insurance claim. CSI is a 3rd party claims company. Any liability for loss, damage, delay, payment of claim, any/all portions of move or claim are solely those of the carrier. With that said, the customer voluntarily selected and signed for the free of charge, as required by law, Released Liability Valuation Coverage Protection of $0.60 per pound per article in order to enjoy lower rates for their move. The customer had the opportunity to select Full Value Protection Valuation Coverage at an additional cost and they refused that option. Therefore, the mover's liability in case of negligence is limited to $0.60 per pound per article as dictated on the governing Bill of Lading, signed and agreed upon by the customer. No matter the value of the item. It is based on a standard weight multiplied by $0.60. Like auto insurance, you cannot expect to have damages compensated for full coverage or the value of your vehicle if you selected and paid for the minimum liability. The monetary compensation amount is pre-determined by the customer the day of the move; therefore our hands are tied when it comes to analyzing the claims. The law states we must analyze claims within the limitations of the contract agreed upon by the mover and the customer.

So, we hope that this clears the situation up for the customer and they will understand we are not part of their mover, we do not determine the rate at which they are compensated, and we tried to help them during this process.

Customer Response • Mar 16, 2018

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
Because I claimed in excess of $ 2000.00 in lost, damaged and not returned items.

Claims Service International Response • Mar 19, 2018

Please find 2 documents below- hard to see, but you CAN tell that the customer selected and signed for the $0.60 per pound per article.

CSI (3rd party claims associate) had supported gross neglegence by our moving company that broke and lost our household items during our move.
We had West Coast Movers USA contracted to move our household items from Arizona to Washington State. The movers had missed a whole closet full of items causing us to rent a uhaul that they said they would reimburse us for. Upon receipt of our goods we had several items/boxes that were lost. The unloaders upon arrival in Washington would not check off the boxes and items because they said it was a waste of time and they were in a hurry. They told my wife ( I was at work) to sign the paperwork stating we received all our items and in good condition. She refused to sign because she didn't know if we received everything And over a dozen boxes showed up semi crushed and the sides ripped. They wouldn't even give her copies of any paperwork because she wouldn't sign them. We unpacked everything and checked off all the boxes and items that were labeled on the pick up paperwork we had. That's when we discovered which items were missing. We took pictures of all the broken items and submitted the claim. There was $6k worth of damages, missing items and uhaul rental. CSI said that our claim was only $255. It was $230 just for the uhaul. They also claimed that they have to go off of the paperwork that was upon delivery. That was the paperwork they didn't do but told my wife to sign saying we acknowledge we received everything. I spoke with CSI today and they informed me the settlement is final, they do not work with that company anymore and would not let me speak to anyone else at CSI to resolve this issue. Just one of our missing items was $200 to replace. I don't understand how just one item and uhaul rental was twice as much as what we were offered as a claim, never mind the rest of the missing and broken items. CSI clearly knows the issues with west coast movers as they stated they don't do business with them any longer and yet refuse to fairly treat customers like us.

Desired Outcome

My resolution is for this complaint to take part in affecting there rating so others may be weary of what could happen to them. I would also like to at least be met half way with my claim of originally $6k. It's common sense that whatever is lost or broken, you will never get full replacement value, which is unfair in the first place, but that just seems to be how the world works now. The little guy always gets the worst of it and the people doing wrong get protected. We are just a family that moved and had thousands of dollars in a damages while the big companyies get away with it.

Claims Service International Response • Mar 12, 2018

First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

The customer does not understand that we are truly a neutral 3rd party claims service. Our job is to analyze moving claims based on Federal Regulations, based upon the contract between the customers and their carriers, based upon evidence, and claims adjusting guidelines. EVERY determination made about a claim must be backed with supporting evidence to verify how we reached that decision; whether it an approval or a denial for any item, we must show evidence beyond a shadow of a doubt to support our decisions.

Further, CSI is not an insurance company. CSI does not pay any claims whatsoever. Any and all liability is / was / and always will be the liability of the carriers. Any compensation determined to be due will be paid directly by the mover to the customers. Therefore, if we no longer analyze claims on behalf of that moving company, even if we approved all the items (which we cannot just show bias by just approving items without following Federal Regulations and having evidence to support that decision) the carrier does not have to honor our determinations. If we don't have an active agreement with the mover to analyze their claims, we are not entitled to work on them, not even to access them. Movers will get their customers' claims info sent back to them to handle; even if we are in the middle of the claim. Our services pertaining to analyzing claims are similar to when you select a tax preparation service to prepare your taxes.

Also, this is a valuation claim which is not the same as insurance. Any insurance would have had to be purchased by the customer on their own items. Valuation is a level of liability which is selected by the customer the day of the move. With that said, the customer voluntarily selected and signed for the free of charge, as required by law, Released Liability Valuation Coverage Protection of $0.60 per pound per article in order to enjoy lower rates for their move. The customer had the opportunity to select Full Value Protection Valuation Coverage at an additional cost and they refused that option. Therefore, the mover's liability in case of negligence is limited to $0.60 per pound per article as dictated on the governing Bill of Lading, signed and agreed upon by the customer. Further, compensation is only due when movers are found negligent and when evidence of mishandling of household goods is proven and legally documented. Therefore, if there is no evidence to show the damage is not pre-existing or post-move then we cannot determine the damage as the liability of the mover. Many items were denied due to no notations on the delivery paperwork. While the situation described by the customer is very unfortunate, they could have noted on their documents that they were not allowed to count their boxes or make any notations of damages, as required by the law in order to deem the carrier liable for any missing items.

It is disheartening that the customer feels that we are siding with the carrier. We cannot favor the customer nor the carriers. It is against the law. However, we can't deem the carrier as liable without the required evidence. That would be CSI breaking the law; and CSI cannot break the law for neither the customers nor the carriers.

We sincerely regret that the customer felt the need to file this complaint instead of allowing the representative to explain everything we have said here when they called on 03/09/18. Should the customer be interested in speaking (not arguing) we would be glad to go over the determination with them to see if they would benefit from filing a dispute (allowing them to provide additional substantiating evidence to support their claim). A Senior Adjuster will then review the requested items and take all the additional support into consideration to see if there may be any changes to the settlement amount. This must be done before 04/09/18 if the customer wishes to do so.

Seek contact about claim.
Put in a claim with CSI after a move. This has been going on for some time as the CSI website is kinda bad and hard to use. Have had to make multiple phone calls already. Never heard back after my claim was finally processed. I think it was back in September of last year. Looked through my old email. Didn't see anything. No phone calls as far as I can tell.

Desired Outcome

Contact me. Let me know if there is anything else to do/results/or whatever.

Claims Service International Response • Mar 01, 2018

First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

The customer's claim was settled and emails were sent to him on 11/14/17. One email was the settlement letter explaining how the claim amount offered is determined and the other is a release form for the customer to print and sign, return to CSI so we may then send to their carrier for them to process the payment.

Any correspondence that CSI sends to customers is recorded in their online claim. Customers are given login access to their online claim from day one so they can stay up to date with the status of their claim and never have to worry about if their email handler shoots our emails to spam/junk. The customer has had access the entire time to view their settlement determination.

We did reach out to the customer the minute we received this complaint and heard that they did not know their claim was resolved. We left a very long voicemail explaining to the customer how to log in and access this information. ***We are attaching a copy of the release form (with the amount removed as we do not have the liberty to reveal the amount until the customer has viewed the offer).

We regret that the customer felt the need to file this complaint instead of reaching out to CSI. We would have happily helped him access this claim, but there was not any record of the customer calling or leaving messages. We trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our position on these matters.

I had a few different items I needed to claim and after a very lengthy submission process, it then took around 6 months just to find out that they blamed me for the fact that the movers ruined my hardwood floors. They also said was that I needed to go back to my moving company and take it up with them...who are now conveniently unable to reach. Not a fan of this company.

Claims Service International Response • Feb 02, 2018

First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced during the claims process. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

Federal regulations require that there is a resolution to a claim within 120 days from the date the customer submits their filed claim. The customer submitted their claim 07/24/17 and we provided her with a resolution on 11/06/17. Claims adjusting guidelines require that there is clear, verifiable evidence that the movers are liable for damages. Since the customer did not note that there was damage to their floor, we cannot legally determine, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the scratches on the floor were not pre-existing or post move. There is nothing we can do if the evidence does not support the claim.

We regret that the customer felt the need to file this negative review. We trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our position on these matters.

All Points Moving and Storage Damaged an item they moved.
Their liability carrier, CSI, is not compensating us per the contractual agreement.
They are
Claim ID: XXXXX
Claim No: XXX-XXX
Order / Job No:MXXXXXX

All details are in the complaint filed online. I provided evidence that All Points Moving and Storage Damaged an item they moved.
Their liability carrier, CSI, is not compensating us per the contractual agreement.

Desired Outcome

I have requested a monetary recovery of the value of the damaged item, $800.00.

Claims Service International Response • Feb 01, 2018

First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced during their move. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

NOT Insurance Company: We would like inform you that Claims Service International (CSI) is not an insurance company and the customer's claim filed is not an insurance claim. CSI is a 3rd party claims company. Any liability for loss, damage, delay, payment of claim, any/all portions of move or claim are solely those of the carrier.

Customer Chose the Rate at Which They Will Be Compensated: The customer voluntarily selected and signed for the free of charge, as required by law, Released Liability Valuation Coverage Protection of $0.60 per pound per article in order to enjoy lower rates for their move. The customer had the opportunity to select Full Value Protection Valuation Coverage at an additional cost and they refused that option. Therefore, the mover's liability in case of negligence is limited to $0.60 per pound per article as dictated on the governing Bill of Lading, signed and agreed upon by the customer.

Claim: Compensation is only due when movers are found negligent and when evidence of mishandling of household goods is proven and legally documented. We did determine that the carrier is liable for the TV- however, it is compensated using the weight of the TV (80 lbs.) multiplied by $0.60 per pound per article. The carrier also decided to offer a gesture of good faith to the customer which then makes the total amount of their claim $250 when their liability is only $48. Gestures of good faith are NOT required and are offered as a customer courtesy only. The customer has yet to respond to this generous offer. We ask that they please log in to her online claim and if they wishe to accept their carrier's offer, they need to print the release form, sign and date it, verify the mailing address for their carrier to send the check to is correct (below the signature line). If it is incorrect, please mark through the address and write the correct address beside that one. Then, please return to CSI so we can forward to the carrier for them to make payment.

While we regret that the customer was not satisfied with her move, we trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our position on these matters.

Just a company of *** to do claims service for movers and then not pay what they lost.

Claims Service International Response • Jan 11, 2018

First, We Would like to apologize for any inconvenience the the Customer may have experienced. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

Customer voluntarily selected and signed for the free of charge, as required by law, Released Liability Valuation Coverage Protection of $0.60 per pound per article in order to enjoy lower rates for their move. The customer had the opportunity to select full value protection coverage at an additional cost and they refused that option. Therefore, the mover's liability in case negligence is limited to $0.60 per pound per article as dictated on the governing Bill of Lading. Signed and agreed upon by the customer, further compensation is only due when movers are found negligent and when evidence of mishandling of house hold goods is proven and legally documented. No notation were taken by the customer at time of delivery. While shipment was delivered at destination, customer should have checked and notated if items were not received. Customer filed a claim with our 3rd party claims company on 10/28/17 and a settlement offer was offered to the customer based on the coverage they chose $0.60 customer agreed and signed the release form and it was submitted for payment. Customer was also made aware and agreed that if any reviews are to be posted or published anywhere, either before or after they reached a settlement, that all such reviews, whenever posted, must be withdrawn following a receipt of their settlement payment or all sums received will be forfeited and subject to immediate recovery in the court of law.
We regret the customer found it necessary to file a complaint, but trust that the above explanation enable them to better understand our position in this matter.

I moved to a new home in August and after being overcharged by the moving company I also had to make a claim for damages when they broke several of my items. It has been over three months since I made my claim and CSI has done literally nothing. I haven't heard a word since I filed my claim and frankly don't expect to ever see a dime for my damaged property. Stay away from this company at all costs.

Claims Service International Response

We would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

Lengthy claims process: The proper review of a claim requires that all key material be provided for a just resolution to be offered. However, the collection of such material can become lengthy due to reasons beyond our control such as: pictures supporting claims, move documentation, crew statements, inspection reports ect. All claim are treated to be equally important and therefore handled in the order that they are received.

120 days to respond: Since the customers move was an interstate move it is governed by Federal Regulations which allows up to 120 days for the processing of a claim. We regret the customer is not satisfied with the service they have received and will offer compensation based on our legal liability through the claims process.
CSI's role explanation: Claim Service International (CSI) is not an insurance company and the customers claim is not an insurance claim. CSI is a 3rd party claims company hired by movers nationwide to determine the mover's legal liability for household goods claims. Any liability for loss, damage, delay, payment of claim, any/all portions of the move or the claim are solely those of the carrier including the payment of the claim

Increase: Per federal regulations any additional items and services requested which were not included in the original estimate and may result in additional charges require that the movers provide a revised binding estimate which automatically cancels any previous estimates. The customer was provided a revised binding estimate which included all requested additional services prior to the loading of their goods. The customer provided an inventory list of 77 pieces for the estimate. Upon arrival to the origin the customer requested the movers to pack and load 96 pieces. All customer are instructed in advance that all items be disassembled and packed for safe transportation If items are left loose and are not properly packed, the carrier will either refuse the acceptance of such items for shipping or offer packing services for additional charge. Per the information provided on the original estimate and in conjunction with the shipping documents, the customer required additional in packing services which were not originally pre-ordered and quoted.

We regret the customer found it necessary to file a complaint, but trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our potion in this matter.
Kind regards

Claim Service International never contacted me to investigate my claim. They denied my claim entirely, without investigating what I claimed.
Hi. ***@csipros.org sent me the Resolution for your Moving Claim (below in this email). Today (Wednesday November 27, 2017) I emailed my timely commencement of your claim dispute process to ***@csipros.org. Your server sent me an email telling me that ***@csipros.org is a nonexistent email address. I'm emailing you at ***@csipros.org because I fear my email to the fictitious ***@csipros.org address will not reach you. I am also sending it to you by fax to the (XXX) XXX-XXXX number you give the public on your website.

Hi. I do want to dispute your claim resolution, delivered to me by email, by you, on Wednesday November 29, 2017. Please consider this November 29, 2017 email to you as my timely commencement of your process to do that. First, some questions.

You write that you are responding to my claim "Obo" On behalf of All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida. What exactly is your role here? Are you an insurer? Are you subject to Florida's law on insurer good faith and fair dealing? Did Claim Service International conduct the claim investigation? Did All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida do it? Did Claim Service International or All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida hire, or otherwise retain any third party to investigate my claim?

1. Did my goods leave south Florida in a truck trailer or cargo box solely and entirely devoted to the transportation of my goods? Was my move executed as part of a divided truck? Here I'll define my "divided truck" term to avoid confusion. Please consider my term, "divided truck" to mean any truck that left south Florida with an inventory that included my goods and goods owned by others. Were my goods transported from south Florida in a divided truck? At any time en route, were my goods moved from the truck that left south Florida with them aboard, to any other truck trailer or truck cargo box? Were my goods ever removed from the truck trailer or cargo box that transported them from All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida's custody so that they could be stored at any physical location other than my goods' final destination in Wilbraham, Massachusetts?

2. You report that "the carrier checked the truck after it arrived in warehouse, and no items were left undelivered". By warehouse, do you mean All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida's warehouse? Somewhere else? If by warehouse, you mean a warehouse that is not All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida's warehouse, whose warehouse checked the truck to see that "no items were left undelivered"?

3. I reported that All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida lost my goods. You claim that you have considered my factual statement describing my loss. You also claim that you have investigated the movers' role in my loss. You report that after your investigation, you believe All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida's account and you disbelieve me. Please describe how you weighed my credibility. Did you interview me? Did you send me letters asking me to give you more detail before you determined that my claim report to you was a lie?

4. If you are making no credibility determination at all and instead you are denying my claim because I signed a receipt saying that all my goods were delivered and in good condition, why did you conduct any investigation at all?

5. May I have a copy of my claim file?

6. In your Claim Dispute Instructions you write that "all disputes are being reviewed by CSI's senior adjusters". Who reviewed my claim? I'm not interested in a name. A job title will suffice.

7. In your Claim Dispute Instructions, you write that "no third review of claim is allowed". Is that a legal conclusion? Are you saying that Florida, Massachusetts, federal, or any other law, bars all third reviews?

8. If you deny my claim dispute, what other recourse do I have?

Desired Outcome

Please finish your job, and talk with me about my claim, and any questions you have, before you finish your job.

Claims Service International Response

First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

Customer's Questions: You write that you are responding to my claim "Obo" On behalf of All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida. What exactly is your role here? Are you an insurer.

CSI's Response:
CSI is not an "insurer". CSI is a neutral 3rd party claims company. We are not an insurance company, this is not an insurance claim, and we do not pay claims. CSI is hired by many movers nationwide to analyze claims on their behalf and tell them their legal liability based upon Federal Regulations, the contractual Bill of Lading, other shipping documents pertaining to the move, and claims filing guidelines. Carriers (movers) are legally allowed to analyze their own claims, but many of them, such as the customer's carrier, outsource their claims to companies such as CSI. Our expertise is moving claims and maintaining a neutral standpoint when analyzing the claims. Our adjusters are not allowed to make any assumptions, they cannot show any preferential treatment, nor can there be bias (for the carrier or the customer) when analyzing claims. If the evidence does not support what is being claimed, we cannot "just allow the items". On the other hand, if the evidence is supporting the claim, we cannot ignore the evidence to save the carrier money. For valuation claims like these, the carriers pay any settlements from their own pockets without recouping their expenses.

Customer's Question:
Are you subject to Florida's law on insurer good faith and fair dealing?

CSI Response:
This move is an interstate move (long distance) and therefore the Carmack Amendment (49 CFR) supersedes all state and local regulations.

Customer's Question:
Did Claim Service International conduct the claim investigation?

CSI Response: Yes

Customer's Question:
Did Claim Service International or All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida hire, or otherwise retain any third party to investigate my claim?

CSI Response:
This is addressed above in the paragraph. CSI conducted the review of the claim.

Customer's Questions:
1. Did my goods leave south Florida in a truck trailer or cargo box solely and entirely devoted to the transportation of my goods? Was my move executed as part of a divided truck? Here I'll define my "divided truck" term to avoid confusion. Please consider my term, "divided truck" to mean any truck that left south Florida with an inventory that included my goods and goods owned by others. Were my goods transported from south Florida in a divided truck? At any time en route, were my goods moved from the truck that left south Florida with them aboard, to any other truck trailer or truck cargo box? Were my goods ever removed from the truck trailer or cargo box that transported them from All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida's custody so that they could be stored at any physical location other than my goods' final destination in Wilbraham, Massachusetts?

2. You report that "the carrier checked the truck after it arrived in warehouse, and no items were left undelivered". By warehouse, do you mean All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida's warehouse? Somewhere else? If by warehouse, you mean a warehouse that is not All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida's warehouse, whose warehouse checked the truck to see that "no items were left undelivered"?

CSI Response:
These are questions that we do not have the answers to. However, a CSI employee reached out to the customer's representative and gave them their carrier's contact information to reach their dispatch department on 12/06/17. Dispatch should be able to answer questions about the operations of the move.

Customer's Question:
3. I reported that All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida lost my goods. You claim that you have considered my factual statement describing my loss. You also claim that you have investigated the movers' role in my loss. You report that after your investigation, you believe All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida's account and you disbelieve me. Please describe how you weighed my credibility. Did you interview me? Did you send me letters asking me to give you more detail before you determined that my claim report to you was a lie?

CSI Response:
This is also addressed in the first CSI response paragraph. There is no bias when analyzing claims. Just like court; you are innocent until proven guilty. The customer did not have evidence to support her claim that there were missing items. The carrier created an itemized inventory list labeled/tagged with color-coded inventory stickers; each one increasing in numerical sequence and the role of these stickers has one lot number. This inventory sheet is provided to the customer at the pickup as the goods are being noted on the inventory sheet so they can track that the items being loaded are corresponding with the proper listed inventory tag number. The customer signed (after the completion of the loading of the goods) that this was done and that the items listed on the inventory sheets were loaded by the carrier for transport. This is EVIDENCE that customer surrendered their items to the carrier for shipping.

Upon delivery, the customer is expected to check off the items on the inventory list as they are being unloaded from the truck. It says on the inventory forms that the customer is to NOTATE any missing items. While it is unrealistic to expect for customers to open every box and advise of missing items while the movers are still there, it is NECESSARY for the customers to count their boxes, to NOTATE any missing boxes which were not checked off on the inventory sheet as being delivered. The customer is supposed to NOTATE ANY DISCREPANCIES on the Inventory Sheets. It clearly states on the inventory sheets "WE HAVE CHECKED ALL THE ITEMS LISTED AND NUMBERED 1 TO _____ INCLUSIVE AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS A TRUE AND COMPLETE LIST OF THE GOODS TENDERED AND OF THE STATE OF THE GOODS RECEIVED". Further it states "WARNING- BEFORE SIGNING CHECK SHIPMENT, COUNT ITEMS AND DESCRIBE LOSS OR DAMAGE IN SPACE ON THE RIGHT ABOVE". The customer signed in agreement to BOTH of these statements at the pickup. Please see the attached Inventory Sheets signed by the customer and the mover which is evidence that the info listed on the forms is accurate. There are also no exceptions taken for the delivery notating that there are missing items, which boxes or items were delivered and which were not. This, too attests that the items listed on the Inventory Sheets were received.

Therefore, please understand that there were no assumptions used when analyzing the claim. We have to prove guilt beyond any reasonable doubt, just like in a court of law. We do not ask the mover their side of the story- we just need the documents to substantiate a claim determination.

Customer's Question:
4. If you are making no credibility determination at all and instead you are denying my claim because I signed a receipt saying that all my goods were delivered and in good condition, why did you conduct any investigation at all?

CSI Response:
If the customer filed a claim and the carrier sends it to CSI, we must gather the evidence and conduct an investigation. The customer had the opportunity to notate any discrepancies during the delivery. They did not do this.

Customer's Question:
5. May I have a copy of my claim file?
CSI Response:
CSI cannot provide the customer their claim, it is not our property. However, anything they filed for as lost and all email correspondence should be able to be accessed by logging into the customer's online claim account.

Customer's Question:
6. In your Claim Dispute Instructions you write that "all disputes are being reviewed by CSI's senior adjusters". Who reviewed my claim? I'm not interested in a name. A job title will suffice.

CSI Response:
A moving claims adjuster. The customer has the name already.

Customer's Question
7. In your Claim Dispute Instructions, you write that "no third review of claim is allowed". Is that a legal conclusion? Are you saying that Florida, Massachusetts, federal, or any other law, bars all third reviews?

CSI Response:
CSI is the only claims company that offers customers the option to file a dispute. This dispute process is offered as a courtesy to allow the customers to submit any information that could assist them. For example: If a damaged item is denied for "no supporting pictures" the customer can file a dispute and provide pictures of that item. Then, a Senior Adjuster will review the items disputed by the customer, taking the additional information into consideration to see if an adjustment can be

Customer Response

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
Thank you for your reply. I appreciate your attention to my concerns about the whereabouts of my missing property.
Had you done any "analysis of my claim on behalf of All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida" you would have learned:
My goods left my Florida house on an All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida truck. I was told by the All My Sons mover that my goods would be stored in the mover's warehouse. Somewhere between my house in Florida, and my new home in Massachusetts, All My Sons Moving and Storage of Southwest Florida directed, or consented to directions, to give my goods to a mover known to them and unknown to me.
In due course, a truck, with no All My Sons markings on it, arrived at my Massachusetts address. The driver and the laborers told me "I owed them money" and they would hold my goods on their truck until I paid. I called All My Sons in distress because the stranger movers, who had my property, were demanding I pay them more than $1,000 immediately, at the curb. The person who spoke for All My Sons directed the stranger movers to release my goods because I had already paid my entire moving bill.
The stranger movers from the non-All My Sons truck removed my property from their truck. I counted the boxes and noted the inventory sheet while the movers worked. I reported to them that some of my boxes were missing, that an antique painting was missing, that a vacuum cleaner was missing, that two area rugs were missing and that a large framed mirror was missing. The three stranger movers told me to sign the delivery sheet. What happened to my report about my missing goods, and the sheet I signed afterwards, I do not know.
Your investigation would have told you, that the stranger moving truck was loaded with other people's property and that my goods, and theirs, were stacked together.
Your investigation would have told you too, that someone found my missing mirror, weeks later, among some moving boxes in an empty house in Houston, Texas. How could my mirror be in an empty Houston, Texas house inside a sealed All My Sons box, when you say it was delivered to me weeks earlier in Wilbraham, Massachusetts in good condition? Ultimately, someone, at All My Sons' direction, shipped me my mirror from Texas; 1,200 miles away from Southwest Florida, and 1,800 miles away from Massachusetts. Curious.
Some of your response to my complaint is typed in all capital letters. I'm not sure why you did that. Is "evidence" more powerful or persuasive when you type it in all caps? No matter. It's hard to see under the circumstances how paper you want to rely on is EVIDENCE that my mirror and my other missing property arrived safely in Massachusetts and was never lost by All My Sons Moving and Storage somewhere between southwest Florida, Houston, Texas and Massachusetts.
I look forward to your investigation, and your meaningful, and detailed response to my complaint.

They prolonged a claim, were outside their said timelines for follow up and were useless in helping complete the complaint request.
Moving date: August 13, 2017
Job #: LAXXXXXXX
Payment Amount: ~$1161 (applied a Yelp promo for $10 for $20 and paid partial majority in cash at $129/hr and remainder on credit card at $139/hr)

Upon service, I wasn't provided with an estimate of time that it would take to complete the work. When I asked the response I received was "we'll see". I thought this was strange but I had to move that day so I proceeded.

With the same amount of time it took to move the same stuff two years prior, it was a total of 6 hours including drive time with only two people. I'm this case, it took 9 hours for three people including drive time? That doesn't make sense.

The drive took me 45 minutes to make while leaving at the exact same time from the starting location while keeping to the speed limit. They indicated 1 hour which is double time so I had to pay that for 2 hours instead of the 1.5 hours it should've been.

The three movers didn't get along and this contributed to the slowness in making the move which turned out to be very costly for me.

Note that I contacted Rainbow Movers to discuss this issue and they directed me to a claims company called CSI which gave me the runaround and $0 and said since I signed the contract my complaint was invalid!

Desired Outcome

They need to refund me the money or have rainbow movers do that!

Claims Service International Response

We would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

The customer is complaining about services that CSI had nothing to do with. Claims Service international (CSI) is not an insurance company and the customers claim is not an insurance claim. CSI is a 3rd party claims company hired by movers nationwide to determine the mover's legal liability for household goods claims. Any liability for loss, damage, delay, payment of claim, any/all portions of the move or the claim are solely those of the carrier including payment of claim settlement.

A proper review of the claim was reviewed by an adjuster and it was determined that It is the customer`s responsibility before signing the Bill of Lading to verify that all services that were ordered have been performed and have been fully satisfied.If there were issues during any stage of the move the customer should have contacted the carrier immediately to inform them about the issue in order for the carrier to acknowledge the situations.By signing the Delivery Acknowledgement section on of the Bill of Lading customer confirmed all the above. Therefore, the customers claim was respectfully declined. A review of the Bill of Lading indicates that no SERVICE charge was applied to the total bill. No refund can be offered for a service that was never charged. Therefore, the portion of the customers claim was respectfully declined.

We regret the customer found it necessary to file a complaint, but trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our position in this matter.

Customer Response

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
The move took place on a Sunday at a time where the moving company would have been closed to make an appropriate complaint. I also felt at risk for doing so during the middle of the move where the delay experienced wasn't known at the outset. As the customer, I did request an estimate but was refused. I had a contractual obligation to move from the premesis and could not cancel the move due to inadeqient information. This company doesn't protect the consumer, it delays the process for the business, in this case, Rainbow Movers, to absolve themselves of any responsibility. Ethically, CSI is an unethical business and yes, legally what Rainbow Mobers did was acceptable because I signed. Ethically, they are in the wrong and having to file a claim through CSI is a gimmick and the business should be shut down.

This company is a joke. After reading the other reviews I hold very little hope that I will be treated fairly. The actual moving company I contracted with was Arrow out of Las Vegas. Encore out of Illinois picked up my belongings and took them to Illinois where my property sat for about 6 days. Then it was supposedly transferred to a larger truck for delivery. The truck was suppose to leave on Sunday however they did not get to my new home until the following Friday.The driver assured me all of my things were accounted for. Not true. Once I began to unpack I discover many of my things were missing. Because I was so excited about my move I had purchased several new items. Most of these items were the ones that were missing. About 3 weeks after the move I unpacked my television for the bedroom and found out it was busted. I was informed since I had already filed my claim for the missing items I could not add the busted T.V. to my claim.It is so sad that people are comfortable with cheating people. All I can say is God doesn't like ugly. You will reap what you sow.

Claims Service International Response

We would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

The customer was given instructions on filing a claim she was advised to make sure to review her claim thoroughly before posting her claim. Customers are only allowed to file a claim once with CSI per Federal Regulations. Once claims are posted customers will not be able to make changes to their claim nor can an adjuster make changes for you. The only options available to you after you post your claim are: uploading documents and photos. We have contacted the carrier to see if the TV can be added to her claim customer will be contacted as soon as we receive an answer from the carrier.

We regret the customer found it necessary to file a complaint, but trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our position in this matter.

Customer Response

After speaking with the service manager (***) directly I believe we have come to a solution to my situation. She was very poltite and understanding of the circumstance around my concerns. Her personal attention was appreciated and I believe she was sincere in her desire to handle my claim to the satisfaction of all parties concerned. At this time I am retracting my previous opinion of this company and their service.

I placed an insurance claim with this company for lost and damaged items and can not get anyone on the phone or to answer my emails.
I filed a claim with this company after moving pros inc lost or damaged all my items. They claim to be an insurance company how ever I have yet to get anything from them other then a break down of what they have invented and a shut up later for the company they provide insurance to. I have emailed them to call me or provide me with a telephone number. Nether this company who I have yet to find there insurance number on file or moving pros has taken any of my calls to help me resolve this situation. I have taken major losses and this company and the company that sent me to them are answering me. I need resolution and to speak with a person.

Desired Outcome

I am looking for full refund of what I paid to Moving pros sense they have lost or damaged every item in shipping. And I am looking for a correct insurance claim pay out for all of my damaged and lost products. I am also looking to speak with this insurance company to see how they can send me a shut up letter in order to close this claim. They state if I do not sign the letter in 30 days that I am not interested in closing my claim and it will be closed. I need to speak with someone about my claim and I am not signing a shut up letter about anything. I have freedom of speech and they can not demand me to sign something in order to get my payout for insurance I purchased. This is bullying and fraud this is against the law. I paid for insurance and there is not insurance company licensed in this world that makes you sign a shut up letter to get what you paid out on. This company is here to bully people into allowing moving pros to continue to steal from customers.

Claims Service International Response

First we would like to apologize for any inconvenience the customer has endured during their move. It is never our intention that customers will have a less than satisfying experience.

Claims service international (CSI) is not an insurance company and the customer's claim filed is not an insurance claim. CSI is a 3rd party claims company. Any liability for loss, damage, and delay, payment of claim, any/all portions of the move or claims is solely those of the carrier. With that said, the customer voluntarily selected and signed for free of charge , as required by law, Released Liability Valuation Coverage Protection of $0.60 per pound per article in order to enjoy lower rates for their move. The customer had the opportunity to select Full Valuation Coverage at an additional cost and they refused that option. Therefore, the mover's liability in case of negligence is limited to $0.60 per pound per article as dictated on the governing Bill of Lading , Signed and agreed upon by the customer. Further, compensation is only due when movers are found negligent and when evidence of mishandling of household goods is proven and legally documented.

While we regret that the customer was not satisfied with their move, we cannot negotiate with anyone on behalf of Moving Pros Inc, as we are a completely separate entity. Moving Pros hires CSI to analyze their customer's claims and advise them of their legal liability. They are ultimately responsible for the resolution of their customer's claims. However the customer was sent a settlement letter on 10/18/17 and did not respond to the settlement offer sent.

Customer Response

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
If you CSI is completely separate from Moving pros. Why are you sending me a shut up letter on their behalf. I have responded to emails asking that you call me to discuss the claim and you are not. I am not required to sign a shut up letter. If you are finding that my claim is the amount you get to choose NO PROBLEM send me my check. I do not need to sign a letter clearing Moving pros. UNLESS you are working for MOVING PROS and trying to shut me up with an amount that is not correct. You denied items and did not give me the weight cost on them all, you some how changed the higher weighing items and instead of giving me weight amount you are giving something you think looks good on paper. Please call me so we can discuss this matter further. I will not sign a letter to your company stating that I will shut up about moving pros. If you do not work for them you should not have that on that form. Also Even if I wanted to sign this form there is no way to sign it because its in an email body that can not be printed nor esigned. I wont sign the letter no matter what but that is just a bit more shady fraud your company does to avoid talking to customers and giving them what is due to them. Please explain Loss / Damage:
Inv # Item Description Weight Settlement Amount
1

DESK, OFFICE

250Lbs. Appearance Allowance
$75

Analysis: Since the carrier`s Maximum liability is 60 cents per Lb. per article and since the damage you are claiming to your items is not functionality damage but damage to the appearance of the item, the carrier is allowed to offer an amount less than the entire item`s weight, X 60 cents per lb. We are allowing 50% of the weights for appearance allowance. Weight was substantiated online: How can you just give me an appearance allowance they Damaged it period they did it I should get it in full not 50% because you say so.
1

BOOKCASE or SECTION

30Lbs. Per AMSA Weight Guide
$18

Analysis: The valuation coverage you chose is based on the weight of the bookcase rather than its value. Therefore, we allow the weight as set forth in the AMSA Weight Guide.
1

DRESSER, TRIPLE

150Lbs. Per AMSA Weight Guide
$90

Analysis: The valuation coverage you chose is based on the weight of the dresser rather than its value. Therefore, we allow the weight as set forth in the AMSA Weight Guide.
1

BED, KING - MATTRESS

0Lbs. No Supporting Pictures
$0

Analysis: The mattress you are claiming as damaged is covered with a fitted bed sheet and has no supporting pictures to allow a proper analysis of your claim. Per the carrier`s claim filing requirements which are detailed in our instructions page, damaged items without supporting pictures will be denied. Therefore, this portion of your claim is respectfully declined.

I sent you pictures the bed was soaked destroyed filthy through the sheet I put on to protect it.
1

BED, KING - BEDSTEAD

90Lbs. Per AMSA Weight Guide
$54

Analysis: The valuation coverage you chose is based on the weight of the bed rather than its value. Therefore, we allow the weight as set forth in the AMSA Weight Guide.
0

BOX, CHINA

60Lbs. Per AMSA Weight Guide
$36

Analysis: The valuation coverage you chose is based on the weight of the box rather than its value. Therefore, we allow the weight as set forth in the AMSA Weight Guide.
Complaint:
Service Description Settlement Amount
Customer complaint

To Be Handled by the Carrier
$0

Analysis: Since your carrier is the party responsible for any compensation for your claim, it is their right to request that certain portions of a claim be handled by them directly. All of the information provided by you has been referred to them and your concerns will be handled internally. Damage to claimed furniture has been addressed above.
Total Settlement Amount

$273.00

Your weight guide lines are completely off a large box filled with CHINA silver ware do you know how heavy on set is I had all of my grand mothers sets in there. NOWWWWW when I placed this claim I had not found all of my other damaged items and OF COURSE your company nor MOVING pros will answer me SO I CAN PLACE a claim on my 67 inch that once plugged in has a huge brown spot or my broken glass and picture frames. My broken Juicer crock pot and glass on toaster oven. SEE bad business when a consumer cant get get a hold of you to go over the many other items that came out of the boxes broken. FIX this and do not send me another shut up letter. Call me so we can discuss. I have attached pictures of my tv with the damage on it that I must deal with daily because I can not afford a new one.

I am appalled that this operation exists. CSI needs to be exposed by the bait and switch method in which they do business.
I used Monster Movers out of Boston MA- Which broke a few of my longtime owned- irreplaceable items in a move across country. Monster Movers will too get a review written by me in order to expose their way of doing business as well-
If I purchase extra insurance on my belongings, the company breaks my belongings by the order in which they loaded and packed, it should be refunded. PERIOD. I shared pictures, (glad I took before and after but did me no good!!) invoices of items and still was not refunded my full amount. In short, dont sell the extra insurance if you are not willing to hold up your end of the bargain when you damage items. This is unacceptable.
To capitalize on ones loss should outlawed. I am a business owner, I understand we are all looking to make money however, best business practices reach much higher revenue with honesty rather than taking advantage of your customers.
I am going to really put forth some energy into rallying all of the victims of this sham of a company and together we can file a class action lawsuit to ensure the methods in which CSI operates can be charged.

Excessive delays in claim assessment and resolution. Review process is now 11 months long
Filed a claim on November 26, 2016. Contacted CSIPro on assessment time in March 2017. CSIPro emailed that assessment timelines extended to April, XX XXXX. Provided updated written and visual (pictures) information (Feb. to Apr. '17). June 1, 2017 - Filed 3-part dispute (with written and pictures) via email on completed assessment. Assessor failed to review updated information provided between Feb.-Apr. '17. Items disputed shredder, bed frame, nightstands, sales tax, and missing box (no assessment made for missing box and sales tax). August 2017 - Assessor ignored evidence provided in earlier submissions and dispute letter re shredder, bed frame, nightstands, sales tax, and missing box. Recontacted CSIPRo - Daniel R. Daniel asked for bed model number and resend bed and shredder for reassessment. Review still pending and no e-email or telephone response from CSIPro

Desired Outcome

Finish the review that is twice the federally allowed limit.

Claims Service International Response

We would like to apologize for the delay at responding as there was an unexpected change in contact info by the Revdex.com. Their system reverted back to sending notifications of any complaints to an old email address (that has not been the email used for 3-4 years now). The complaint notifications were not properly being sent to our email ***@CSIPROS.ORG the first time the notification is supposedly sent. Nonetheless, we would like to advise that the customer's claim was revised, finished and a revised settlement offer was sent to the customer on 10/05/17. This is BEFORE we received the 1st notification of a complaint.

The customer has not responded to the offer.They have until 11/05/17 to accept the offer (sign the release form and return) before the claim will be closed for "lack of interest".

We regret the customer found it necessary to file a complaint, but trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our position in this matter.

Kind Regards

Customer Response

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
I disagree with the claim that I have not responded to the offer.

The settlement offer has a legal clause that CSI Pro has refused to explain despite repeated emails (over 4 emails on Oct 17, 23, 26, 30, Nov 2 in 3 week period) from me regarding an explanation. As of this explanation. I have received no response from CSI PRO.

Additionally, CSI Pro has not responded to my query (over the same 3 week period) as to what my recourse is should I not receive the a settlement check from the movers.

Proof of the emails is attached.

Claims Service International Response

Document Attached***
The customer is choosing the portions of the conversations and is not showing the last release form which they signed and submitted on 11/02/17. This release form attests that the customer is satisfied with the settlement offer and has no further concerns about the move. At this point, CSI has absolutely no further involvement. The customer and their carrier have agreed. It is the responsibility of the carrier to make payment. CSI is not responsible for payment. We have attached the signed release form showing the corrected address and the customer's signature in agreement. The customer must contact the carrier about payment.

Customer Response

(The consumer indicated he/she ACCEPTED the response from the business.)

See attached

Claims Service International Response

First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced during the claims process. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services.

Unfortunately, we cannot read the customer's complaint letter well enough to respond properly. We respectfully request that the customer provide us with a legible copy of their complaint in order for CSI to understand their concerns and address them appropriately. In order to avoid any delay we ask that the legible complaint be submitted to ***@CSIPROS.ORG (whether submitted by the Revdex.com or by the customer). Thank you very much.

Customer Response

CSI Pros was contacted by me (as directed by Always Affordable Moving and Storage) on approximately 2/2017) to help mediate the damages,aggravation ,time expended and financial losses I experienced during my move to Florida . . Pictures, written documentation and emails were sent to CSI Pros shortly after my move to Florida on 1/24/2017 by Always Affordable Moving and Storage . After nearly 6 months of "investigating" CSI Pros offered "$12.50".( ....BTW-which was never received by me ). When I tried to call CSI Pros to discuss how they came to that amount or what their rationale was they would not return my 2 calls or 2 emails. I was surcharged by Always Affordable Moving and Storage for approximately $2200 additional fees on top of the initial total estimate of $4400. ( a 50% surcharge) for " extra space on the truck, extra boxes used and extra time spent". The additional time spent amounted to 2 additional hours after they notified me for a total of 23 hrs) . The amount of space on the truck and boxes additionally used were never specified despite my making several requests for specifics......... , additionally, several household items were damaged as well as damages made to the walls and front door of my brand new home. The movers also packed some items which were supposed to stay with the existing house in Virginia. These items were pointed out to the movers 2x yet they moved them anyway. I supplied pictures showing the damages. 5-6
months transpired while CSIPros "investigated " .... Always Affordable refused to take responsibility for these problems mentioned ........as well as for two large ,expensive glass
framed pictures that were >stolen< outright by his reps from his company during the 1/24 /2017 packing phase. The pictures have never been returned and are worth $350 just by themselves.

My feelings are that CSI Pros themselves should return a reasonable amount of funds expended for all the irresponsible and unethical behaviors , damages ,stolen items, excuses ,time wasted, aggravation,, phone calls and resulting mess I am still cleaning up from nearly 1 yr later as a result of dealing with such disreputable companies as Always Affordable and CSI Pros itself. My thought is that the decimal point needs to be moved in the $12.50 and placed two decimals to the right ( $1250.00). If not I will be completing and filing the paperwork I have received from Brevard County Small Claims Court, Brevard County ,FL. . Additional court costs ,attorney fees (and the potential for punitive damages assessed by the judge) will be added to the $1250 mentioned. I am quite confident the judge will not take lightly to what I have described above.

. Thank you for your time and willingness to assist

Claims Service International Response

First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience the customer has endured during the move. It is never our intention that customers will have a less than satisfying experience.

Binding Estimate: A "Binding" estimate is an estimate which is binding on both the customer and the carriers. Both the customer and the carrier agree that for services described in the estimate, the charges will be disclosed. However, if the services originally requested change, more items are requested to be shipped, and /or more services are requested to be performed by the movers, then a new Revised Binding Estimate must be issued to include the additional goods and services requested to be serviced. The customer provided an inventory list of 122 pieces for the estimate. Upon arrival to the origin the customer requested the movers to pack and load 156 pieces. This was over the amount he had stated in the original estimate.

Loading before Revised Estimate: The Foreman is not in position to assume that all the items present are to be moved. The foreman doesn't always recognize that additional items were added to the original list of items to be moved. Especially if such information is not offered by the customer in advance. Therefore, the crew is ordered to commence the wrapping and loading of items however, once additional items were identified, the foreman will cease work until they carefully inspect the entire shipment, issue a Revised Binding Estimate, require the customer to sign agreeing that changes were made and they accept the resulting increase of charges.

Lengthy Claims Process: The proper review of a claim requires that all key material be provided for a just resolution to be offered. However, the collection of such material can become lengthy due to reasons beyond our control such as: pictures supporting claims, move documentation, crew statements, inspection reports etc. All claims are treated to be equally important and therefore handled in the order that they are received.

120 Days to respond: Since this move was an interstate move it is governed by federal regulations which allow up to 120 days for processing of the claim. We regret the customer is not satisfied with the service they have received and will offer compensation based on our legal liability through claims process.

CSI'S Role Explanation: Claim Service International (CSI) is not an insurance company and the customer's claim is not an insurance claim. CSI is a 3rd party claims company hired Always affordable Moving to determine the mover's legal liability for household goods claims. Any liability for loss, damage, delay, payment of claim, any/all portions of the move or the claim are solely those of the carrier including the payment of claim settlements.

Compensation: Customer was offered compensation based on the valuation coverage that he selected and signed for of $0.60 per pound per article. This coverage was provided for free of charge and kept the price of the move lower and more affordable. We cannot change the coverage signed for as we are bound to analyze claims within the boundaries of the contract between the customer and the carrier.

We regret that the customer felt the need to file a complaint. We trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our position on these matters.

Customer Response

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
What resolution?? CSIPros made no attempt to clarify this matter until Revdex.com was brought into the equation. If I do not receive financial restitution from CSI Pros themselves I will file this formal complaint with Revdex.com as well as proceeding to take this to Brevard County Florida small claims court. The $1250 mentioned will then need to have court costs and attorney fees added in addition to the $1250.

Claim submitted to CSI two months ago and still have not received a final reply. This is non acceptable business practice.
1- Broken table - round antique table was completly broken this was acknowledged by the delivery workers and is also listed on final signed invoice.

2- Broken Furniture - antique desk broken legs completly broken this was acknowledged by the delivery workers and is also listed on final signed invoice.

3- Missing token booth and ladder - this was acknowledged by the delivery workers and is also listed final signed invoice.

Additionally , we were in contact with Movers Pros Inc. (Matthew )our original sales person who told us to submit a claim to CSI Insurance. However, CSI is not an insurance company as indicated in Matthew's email (attached) to us. No place on your contract is CSI listed and no place on your contract there is any indication that we would need to go through a claims review company (CSI). At this point we are seeking refund for the overcharge and full restitution for broken and missing item.

Desired Outcome

Full refund for damaged and missing items as per proff of claim submitted two month's back

Claims Service International Response

First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience the customer has endured during the move. It is never our intention that customer's will have a less then satisfying experience.

120 Days to respond: Since this move was an interstate move it is governed by federal regulations which allows up to 120 days for the processing of the claim. We regret the customer is not satisfied with the services they have received and the carrier will offer compensation based on their legal liability through the claims process.

Lengthy Claims Process: The proper review of a claim requires that all key material be provided for a just resolution to be offered. However, the collection of such material can become lengthy due to reasons beyond our control such as: pictures, supporting claims, move documentation, crew statements, inspection reports ect. All claims are treated to be equally important and therefore handled in the order that they are received. We appreciate your patience and cooperation.

CSI's role explanation: Claim Service International (CSI) is not an insurance company and the customer's claim filed is not an insurance claim. CSI is a 3rd party claims company hired by movers nationwide to determine the mover's legal liability for household goods claims. Any liability for loss, damage, delay, payment of claim, any/all portions of the move or the claim are solely those of the carrier including the payment of claim settlement.
A proper review of the claim was reviewed by an adjuster and it was determined that the customer was due $90.00 based on the Valuation coverage the customer chose which was $0.60 per pound per article. If items were denied we provided the reason for the denial. Customer refused the settlement and filed a dispute on 10/10/17.

We regret the customer found it necessary to file a complaint, but trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our position in this matter.

Customer Response

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
CSI still has not appropriately valued the damaged and missing items. As per contract items were to be insured and should not go through a lengthy process conducted by CSI. To their own omission CSI stated in writing that they are backlog and can not get to all claims in a timely manner. Additionally, CSI is not appropriately valuing my damaged / missing items

Claims Service International Response

The "value" of the items is irrelevant. The coverage that the customer selected and signed for with their carrier is the released liability valuation coverage (not insurance). Valuation is a level of liability and is paid from the mover's pocket should through the claims process it be proven to be their responsibility to compensate. However, the compensation is NOT based on value, but it is the weight of each item deemed the liability of the carrier multiplied by $0.60 per pound per article. Let's say that the customers have a $1,000 television that weighs 10 lbs.. If the damage is determined to have happened while the carrier was in possession of the items the compensation would be $60 (10 lbs. multiplied by $0.60= $60). It is similar to insurance in only one way: the coverage that the customers select is the coverage they will be able to utilize should there be damage. If you have minimum liability on a valuable car and have an accident, the insurance will only compensate you based on the minimum plan you have in place when the accident happened. Customers cannot suddenly expect compensation as if they had selected and paid for the full replacement comprehensive coverage.

The customer filed a dispute on 10/10/17. The dispute process is offered by CSI as a courtesy and the timeframe is not Federally mandated. We try to finish all disputes within 45 days, but are at times delayed due to reasons beyond our control. However, we are not breaking any rules if the time does extend beyond the 45 days. The customer needs to be sure to continue to check their online claim to see when the status changes to settle- they will know at that time to go into their online claim and look for the latest correspondence in Section 8. On October 30th a dispute resolution notice was emailed to the customer. Mr. needs to check his email regarding the resolution of his dispute.

We regret that the customer felt the need to continue their complaint. We trust that the above explanation enables them to better understand our position on these matters.

Holding back on my review, other than to say that this is the worst company I have ever dealt with. In the past I have moved an entire household from the USA to the UK, and back again, and had absolutely NO damage, and the cost was 1/4 the price. I have been busy gathering information under the license of a private investigator I do freelance work for and plan to reveal all that I find. Also, we have a very large private group of victims working together to stop this company from cheating anyone ever again. Stay tuned for when the magazine issue comes out.

By the way, don't expect CSI Pros to deal fairly with your claim, since the owner, ***, has some form of personal relationship with *** owner of Golden Valley Van Lines, and numerous other incarnations of his company names. Oh, and here is a clue of the close ties between these companies... When *** replies he starts off with "First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience that you may have experienced. It is never our intention for our customers to be less than satisfied with our services." And when *** replies to complaints left about CSI Pros you get... "First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience the customer has endured during the move. It is never our intention that customers will have a less than satisfying experience." Hmmmmm! Type Stan's name in to Google, see what news articles come up. CSI Pros, after being confronted by me about the owner's personal relationship with *** DELETED our claim and closed our account so that we are unable to access any information.

Claims Service International Response

First, we would like to apologize for any inconvenience that the customer may have experienced. It is never our intention for customers to be less than satisfied with their services. (yes, that is a common and very polite opening sentence).

The customer is incorrect in all her assumptions. She bases her information from the internet and social media searches. The customer states CSI closed her claim after she called making these allegations. That is not true!

#1) the customer called from a phone number which could not be found for anyone in our system who has a claim. The number she called from was XXX-XXX-XXXX. The two phone numbers she provided CSI for her claim are XXX-XXX-XXXX and XXX-XXX-XXXX. We could not identify the caller to be able to even note her claim about her concerns.

#2) when the customer called CSI (before we knew who was calling) she stated she had reporters in her living room with her. Now, she states that she is part of a very "large private group" and "she does freelance investigative work under a private investigator."

#3) the customer also filed her complaint/review on 08/02/17 (stating that after the call she made, we closed her claim and she can't access it). However, we would like to provide messages sent from the customer on the message board which can ONLY be accessed from within the claim. Two messages were posted on 08/02/17 (the 2nd one is making these absurd allegations and accusing that CSI cannot provide her fair resolution to her claim). There are also 2 MORE messages posted on 08/03/17. One of the messages asks " Will Pan-American's connections with her mover and CSI cause a conflict of interest in settling my claim fairly and ethically?"???? The 2nd message states" Messages screen captured to show that nobody is responding to questions".

All things being considered, there is nothing that will affect the proper and legal processing of her claim. CSI does not engage in any unethical or illegal activities. We would appreciate it if the customer would stop her façade and stop trying to defame/extort
companies. Thank you.

***We are emailing the screenshots of the customer's messages showing the dates they were posted inside of her claim, after we "closed her claim" as the customer falsely states. It would be our pleasure to provide this evidence so everyone can see that we can substantiate what we are saying above and the customer has no legitimate reason to post this complaint.

Read the fine print. After our furniture was delivered and SEVERAL of our items were damaged including a very expensive chest of drawers, our settlement was $87. Lamps were broken, glass items that we'd carefully packed in boxes marked fragile, a white desk chair was delivered with stains that wouldn't come off and the list goes on. Our settlement was based on weight of the items and let's be serious - who knows how much their items weigh. It's a total scam and set up to mislead the consumer thinking they actually have insurance. It's disgusting that businesses get away with this! Avoid this company at all costs! Oh - and by the way - BEFORE YOU GET YOUR MONEY, THEY ASK YOU TO SIGN A WAIVER FOR YOU TO NOT POST ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS ONLINE OR THEY WILL DEMAND THEIR MONEY BACK. THAT'S HYSTERICAL! FOR $87?????

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