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Colins Auto Exports

1001 Riverside Dr Ste 250, Palmetto, Florida, United States, 34221-5064

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I contacted the above company back in July regarding him sourcing a vehicle for
me to bring over to the Uk.His company claim on their Website to Thoroughly
check/inspect before purchase, he sourced a 1978 Trans Am which he shown me
photos of and said via Whattsapp (of which I have filed) that the vehicle is a
"Nice Car in Excellent Condition"and indeed the Car Lot which was selling the
vehicle in their Advert said the same (of which I have kept also). We agreed a
price but no contracts were signed and no T&C'S were discussed. I sent him the
money via Bank Transfer and he collected the car from the Car Lot.Within days
of collection he started to point out problems he had since found e.g Severe
Oil Leak,Holes in the Floorpan, a Bad Repair on the Trunk and that the
Paintwork would need a Wet Sanding due to it being Dull/Flat so hardly in
"Excellent Condition" as he had previously stated.His excuse for the Holes in
the floor was that the hoist at the Car Lot was out of order so could;nt check
it which is bad enough but the other Bodywork problems should have been seen by
visual inspection before buying it.He has point blank refused to refund any
money and has now started invoicing huge storage and transportation fees as I
wont send the necessary paperwork to him and the shipper to allow them to ship
it here. I have tried to negotiate better/more expensive cars with him but to
no avail.I have all relevant conversations documented if you need more
information.Thank You
Product_Or_Service: pontiac

Desired Outcome

Refund As the car is not of the standard they led me to believe i would like my full money back

Colins Auto Exports Response • Mar 03, 2020

Good Afternoon, firstly I need to point out that Auto Workshop Supplies LLC dba Colins Auto Export has been dissolved as per Florida law, and is no longer open. However, I picked up the voicemail and letter today, so I will briefly respond. Mr *** asked us to purchase a car for him as we did for his brother some months prior. We sent him details of one, and we went to inspect it. We didn't like it and told him so. So we continued a search. We found this car and sent him images and details. He is paying around $17,000 for a car, that he knew was not concours and nows one as such is about $28-20k. He docided he wanted us to purchase it for him and sent the money. We then went to the dealer and gave it an inspection and a drive. With the facilities available we deemed the car good value, matching numbers and drove really nicely. So we brokered the deal for him. We do not buy stock. We then drove the vehicle ona long trek, as per his request, as a 'shake down'. The car is a 1978 vintage on original motor/transmission. On the way back, we noticed that it had started to smoke. Upon investigation, the rear oil seal has gone. Nothing serious, and in keeping with a car of that age. As a gesture of goodwill we explained we would fix that for him, free of charge. He then asked us to add performance to this car, headers and a performance cam kit. So we bought these items as per request. We use a local repair shop, to fir such items. All he said was who would be liable should something 'break' or be 'dangerous' when all this new power is added to the orignal old components, as he didnt want the risk or responsibility. We explained that a complete rebuild could get up to $7k IF there were problems as we stripped out his old engine. So nothing other than explaining any liability was his. We also noticed whilst the car was on a full 4 post ramp (obviously one of these isnt available during a normal vehicle inspection) that the repair to the trunk floor, whilst real clean when you look in the trunk, could of been finished better looking at the underside. Again, nothing serious. We also stated, like we do with any old car, that the paintwork (unliess buying a concours vehicle) always benefits from a mop/polish or even a wet sand/polish. He has seen the paintwork in images sent to him way before he sent any monies to us. His brother then said not to worry, his guy in the UK can fit the Cam kit etc, no problem. So many weeks of owning the vehicle, and after these communications, he tells us he doenst want it, and can we trade it for another. So naturally we said we would help. So HE saw two other vehicles that he would like. Bear in mind THIS car was at the top of his budget, and now, after 'finding' more money (probably from his brother) his budget has increased substantially. So we spoke to the trader with these other vehicles and came up with solutions. He would not accept either of these as he thought the trader should offer the 'retail' price that he paid. Now everyone knows a trader will only offer a low trade value. So he said "No, I want my money back" or I will take yo to court. Also at the same time, started posting negative and quite damming posts on FaceBook about our company. Bear in mind also, we ship/broker about 100 vehicles a year to the UK and have an exceptional customer rating. So we explain we cannot give him his money, and due to his comments and nature we do not want any further dealings with him. We sent the car to the port for export as per our agreement, and thats where our agreement ends. The shipping is done by another company directly with him. However he then would not sign a Power of Attorney form for them to help with the import documentation. So his car sits at the port for many, many weeks. Eventually the shipping company ask us whats going on. Mr *** does not respond to them, or us at all. So I arrange, at my cost to have the car collected and stored. Naturally there are storage charges. Again this is sent to Mr ***. Again, all ignored. We explain we can put a lien on the title to cover these increasing costs/debt. Again no response. Then I get a letter from the FLHMSV and we have a meeting. This about 8 weeks after our latest compliance meeting that we passed *** flying colours. He got no success with them. He then made a claim on our bond insurance, and after explaining the issue, they too told him there was no case. Further slanderous postings on social media followed. All the time only communication I get from Mr ***, a UK resident, is that he is going to take us to court. Again, no court in Florida will take his case, and no court in the UK, can file against the LLC corporation in the USA. I then explain we will no longer be in business soon, and that his current storage and transportation costs were near $2000. Again, no positive communication). So as another gesture of goodwill, and before the company was closed, we paid all the outstanding storage and transportation costs up to and including 6th March 2020. We sent him a letter that he received, explaining this, and also the details of the company storing his car. We cannot do anymore He is compaining about a car that is worth the money he paid. We did not even advertise the car. He has not even seen the car. We have images of the car, as it was when we sent it to port. His car is currently stored, and has been since back in October, outside, open to all elements. We have also explained that he has full 100% liability for any damage to the car and contents, also any theft of the car, or parts or contents. the vehicle title, documentation, bill of sale, are in the car. Everyone I know from both sides of the atlantice have agreed. Its a simple case of buyers remorse. He bought it, then found some more money and has changed his mind. The car is a great car for the money, everyone who has seen it agrees. Sadly, when Mr *** eventually decides to have his car shipped, even if it were a 100% concours, we all know it wont be perfect for him. However, as mentioned, the company has closed its doors, and most communications will go unanswered, but I felt it right to explain the real truth, and not the frustrations of someone who has changed there mind. The company that are storing his car, and indeed the original shipping company, are quite willing to help him have it sent to the UK. Mr ***, still has not even seen this car in person, or any of his representatives. Thank you.

Customer Response • Mar 04, 2020

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
Thank You for your reply.
First can I point out some serious mistruths by Mr..
He never purchased a car for my brother,my brother sourced the car himself,he only asked Mr.L. to ship it over to the UK.
Secondly when he found the Trans Am at a dealer in Fort Myers Florida he said "I have this nice car" in "Excellent Condition" also the Advert from the Dealership said the same.Both of which I have via Whatsapp and Facebook messages that I will send to you with this communication.
As for him saying I knew it was not in concours condition that was never mentioned at all to me.An "Excellent Condition" vehicle is what I would expect.
As Mr.L's website and Facebook page states "We will go to the vehicle and inspect, just as if we were buying a car for ourselves or our family, using our years of experience and knowledge. We need to ensure that there are no nasty surprises for our client when the vehicle arrives. Again, communication is the key here, and any issues we can report straight back, or indeed just walk away. In some cases, it maybe that in conjunction with the buyer, and vendor, we cannot get to site to inspect, but always we discuss that first. This was not clearly done as no mention of the faults ie Severe Oil Leak, Bad Repair to the trunk,Wet Sanding required and also what he has failed to mention which was holes in the floorpan.None of which he told me about until after I had sent him the money. I would have stopped the purchase immediately had I known of these faults.The pictures he sent me shown the car in Bright Florida Sunshine so it looked paint wise fine,but obviously it was not.
All the Engine upgrades which I asked for was before the money changed hands and before the bodywork and paint problems were pointed out to me and as such are immaterial to this case as the engine is not the problem the bodywork is, he has not done his job that he says he does prior to purchase and as therefore Misled me into believing this vehicle was in "Excellent Condition" which it clearly is'nt.
I tried to help him to rectify his mistakes by looking at other vehicles from the same car lot but the vehicles after serious closer inspection were mainly of equally poor quality.As for him saying the Trans Am was at the "TOP" of my budget,that again is simply not true.If the right vehicle in "Excellent Condition" had been offered I would have been happy to go ahead with the purchase.
I did then ask for my money back as he has stated,as I had signed nor seen any contract from him or T&C'S off his company.
I noticed on his Facebook page that he had had a couple of other customers who had problems with him not thoroughly Inspecting their vehicles prior to purcahing from him, I contacted them and they were have similar difficulties with him.I then posted on a Facebook page American Car UK detailing my case without naming him or his company, I was then contacted by more people who knew who it was as they had similar problems with him.He contacted my Lawyer via email after my Lawyer had asked for the money back to say I had Slandered him and his company on Social Media to which my Lawyer responded "Slander is when you tell lies"my client has not told lies just facts.I also contacted Florida Division of Motor Services Region 8 and filled in a Complaint Affidavit were a Sandra H. looked into all the relevant messages via whatsapp/Facebook between us both and she cited him for illegally selling to individuals,I will attach the report. Sandra told me to contact his Bond company to see if they could help me so I sent all relevant documents but they said as I had no contract with his company they were unable to help.
To try and make me accept the car Mr. started to send me Excessive bills for storage and transportation of the vehicle adding up to $2000 for uncovered unsafe storage,and he would put a lien on the car if these were not paid, I will send you these as proof. I checked out storage companies in his area and was quoted $48 per month for secure storage.So again trust in him was at an all time low.
As for the title he states that it is in my name, how can this be so as I have never seen it or any contract from him.
The reason I led to believe by my Lawyers and others who have dealt with him he has dissolved his company is that he can no longer sell to individuals as instructed by FLHMSV so he's closed it down,having said that when he announced his closure on his Facebbok page a few of his friends and previous customers wished him well but a couple said they were going to buy from him again and he suggested to them to keep in touch as he will help them out with their purchase.
He states its a simple case of "Buyers Remorse"which it is not itds a simple case of Misleading a customer into thinking they are getting an "Excellent Condition" car only to find after the moneys been paid its not,basically its a "Lemon"so much so that the original dealer wanted to give £4000 less for it within a couple of weeks.
He says he explained to me he will be no longer in business soon again this was not pointed out to me at anytime, the ist I heard of it was when another dissatisfied customer of he's contacted me.
I just want justice to be done here I have no wish to harm his company or reputation over this , he misled me either by malpractice or incompetance he has the car he can sell to recoup most of his outlay if it is like he says it is .
Hopefully you can assist me on this.Thank You

Colins Auto Exports Response • Mar 05, 2020

I am now overly tired of all this. Let me just go through some of the actual facts once again.
The car was purchased through Auto Workshop Supplies LLC DBA Colins Auto Export, both registered within the state of Florida. Now dissolved.

Mr. just wrote "First can I point out some serious mistruths by Mr.L..
He never purchased a car for my brother,my brother sourced the car himself,he only asked Mr.L.to ship it over to the UK."

Simply untrue.

FACT: ***, his brother contacted us back in May/June last year, looking for a specific car. He himself had seen one and explained that was the sort of car he was after. So through various phone conversations (These were quite humorous, as Derek could only call when he was out walking his dog, as he did not want his wife to overhear conversations of him buying a car). The original car he saw was still available but not in a location where we could inspect it. So he asked us to further investigate the vendor and broker the deal. Then have the car shipped to us for us to look over and advise of any issues. So this is what we did. The attached file 'derekquote' was emailed to *** on the 6th June 2019. As you can see, this quite clearly sets out what we are doing for this client. Also quite clearly states any liabilities. It shows also, that our responsibilities are to broker the deal, do the inspections etc and ship the car to port. At that point we hand over to another company that Derek deals directly with for shipping and the import documentation. To prove further, attached is a copy of our bank statement for June 2019, clearly showing a deposit from *** for the correct amount! So you can see 100% we did broker a sale for *** unlike the statement from ***, the facts are there in black and white. In addition, when ***s car arrived with us, it had a horrendous fuel leak from the fuel line into the carburetor. I do have a video of this should *** want to dispute this also? So we spoke to ***, and at his request had the carburetor repaired. We also spoke to the vendor who contributed to the repair. Once fixed, we then sent the vehicle as per our arrangement to port. All done, *** was very happy indeed with our services, hence why he told his brother to use us!
Again *** says he has never seen any of our terms etc.... Well that cannot be true can it? All the way through this deal, there was a three way 'conversation' between ***, *** and I. *** was lending/giving his brother a percentage of the money for the car and wanted to be involved. *** has already purchased through us, as factually stated and supported here. In another fact, the monies for this car was sent by his brother!

Mr. also wrote "The reason I led to believe by my Lawyers and others who have dealt with him he has dissolved his company is that he can no longer sell to individuals as instructed by FLHMSV so he's closed it down"

Simply Untrue.

FACT: Even to this day, our Florida wholesale license, issued by the FLHSMV is in order. During our initial consultations with the FLHSMV we explained clearly what we do, and how we operate. There are a number of types of dealer license available. Upon consultation, we were advised, by the FLHSMV to go with the wholesale license. In I believe May of 2019 (I don't have the exact date) we had a full inspection of our procedures and systems by the compliance officer Stephen B. from the Palmetto office. During these interviews, the compliance officer picks about 8 random vehicle sales and goes through each of them thoroughly to check compliance, this paperwork trail shows vehicle purchases, title documentation copies, client information etc etc. SO as all our clients are UK based and mostly individuals, he was happy and said we did not need to change anything. This mainly because the UK law on vehicle traders is different to US in that you don't need a specific license. I am sure that should he wish, Mr. could ask to see a copy of Mr. B.s compliance report on the business. After Mr. complaint to the FLHSMV we had a meeting with two different officers from the Palmetto office. They understood our business and asked us to change the way that we 'land' cars in the UK, to show it is landing to a registered company and not a private individual, just to make thing cleaner. Unlike Mr. posts and comments, we did not get a threat of any court action, or 'citation' as he put it. Again, to conclude the facts as I stated here and previously, attached is the copy of the letter from the FLHSMV. At this point, we then only imported via UK Ltd company to appease the situation. You can quite clearly see from their letter that they were noting an issue, not as Mr. publishes, 'citing' us (this means court action etc) again, more slander. Attached is FLHSMV letter copy, again proving my statement.

The reason we closed the business we stated quite openly and from the heart. If Mr. wants to question my wife's home-sickness and more important health issues and wants proof of this, then I'm sorry, he can just 'want' I am not publishing any of that. Suffice to say that she currently is taking 6 pills every morning and a further 5 every evening. In addition, 2019 was an incredibly tough year for exporting from the US into the UK 'luxury' market. Any seller of vehicles of they type we offer would say the same. Add to that Brexit, a general election and a weak pound/exchange rate. So a personal and professional decision was made. If Mr. believes his 'issue' was in any way aligned to our decision, again. He is mistaken. If I do decide to open a similar business in the future, then that is solely my business, in the meantime, I am free to help whoever I choose.

The car was at the top of his budget. FACT.
He wanted a Chevelle SS, and when we explained the prices of one in good condition, he immediately explained he could not afford that. He alone was borrowing money from his brother to assist in the purchase.

His brother, as a matter of fact, during the latter part of the search and purchase, even spoke to me and apologized, stating that he wished he had never got either of us involved with his brother as he was difficult to deal with and impetuous, in hindsight, I would agree with is brother.

Again, a simple case of buyers remorse, for which we are not responsible for in any way. He bought a car for $17,000, a car worth the money, everything is relative to budget. He now wants a concours version that would be nearer $30k. The photographs show the vehicle exactly as it is/was. At this rate he will end up with nothing, and that would be a shame.

We have done what we agreed as quite clearly stated in our terms. His car has now been sitting out in the open now for many months, The vehicle is owned by Mr ***. We have no further involvement. If he wishes to collect the car from its current location, that is his decision. He will be charged ongoing storage rates at typical automotive recovery yard rates. It seems that he has no real concept of this either. I do know that this yard WILL enforce a lien on the title, and WILL get a legal order to sell Mr. Smiths vehicle should he not respond and pay accordingly. That again, is nothing to do with us.
The business is closed, all incoming mail is marked RTS as the office is closed too.

Please note that all the above is written without prejudice.

I am closing this matter now. Thank you, I wish you all good health.
*** L..

Customer Response • Mar 05, 2020

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ndicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
Thanks for the quick response.
Just checked with my brother again Mr.L. did not source the previous car Oldsmobile Toronado it was my brother and his Friend ***,they asked Mr.L. to Purchase and ship it to the UK,when it arrived in Florida there was a fuel problem that Mr.L. did get repaired under instruction from m brother.So when he claims to have sourced it for him that is an untruth.
As for not seeing any terms and conditions or a contract between us, I have never seen or signed anything from Mr.L. if he had sent anything like that to me surely he would have proof that he had.
The reason the money was sent from my brothers bank account was because he already had Mr.L. bank details but all the money came from me via my brother bank account.
The car was not at the top of my budget at all and I was not borrowing money of anyone Fact.I own 2 Business's 3 Houses and 5 shops so money was not a problem.Its just the fact that all the options to trade to other vehicles were more botched up vehicles from the same car lot that he had bought the Trans Am from which had now turned oUT to be a LEMON.
As for not being cited I sent you the report that they sent to me which clearly states he will be cited for selling to individuals which he is not allowed to do,he did continue for a time after selling/advertising vehicles and then I alerted FLHSMV that he continued to do so and then all of a sudden it stopped.BTW I am a private individual not a Registered company.
This all boils down to his Companies claim to thoroughly check out the vehicle before purchase and point out any problems or faults to the purchaser,There was no mention of any faults whatsoever prior to sending the money indeed he even stated "I have this nice car" in "Excellent Condition"which I have sent to you via messages he sent to me and the advertisement from Rose Motors which said the same.
This is the crux of the issue, he did not either by malpractice or incompetence not check the car out properly as these faults should have been spotted prior to purchasing the vehicle.Oil leaks can happen, but holes in the floorpan,bad repair on the trunk and it will need a wet sanding are basic things to check out.If he had mentioned these faults I would have backed out immediately.
I never expected a concours car but I did expect to get a "Nice Car" in Excellent Condition "not this project car or LEMON in other words.
All the correspondence I have sent to you details all the messages prior to the money changing hands and proves how he missold this vehicle to me.Also the invoices he sent me for shipping and storage proves what a despicable man he his trying to rip me off for them as well, more than 6 times the price I found for storage in his area.
Thank you for your assistance

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