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On 9/19/AAMCO RO# [redacted] was opened for [redacted] Chevrolet Equinox LT [redacted] stated that “reduced engine power and service stabilitrac system is on in the message information center” [redacted] also stated Classic Chevrolet had told her that her electronic throttle body, electronic accelerator pedal position sensor and EVAP purse valve needed to be replaced [redacted] was referenced to us by her extended warranty company, MaxCare CNA, because AAMCO has a national account with them Because electronically controlled vehicles rely on a properly operating electrical system, we performed a battery, starter, and alternator test with the results being that the battery must be replaced Codes stored in the vehicle main computer were as follows: P– EVAP small leak P– EVAP flow during non-purge function P– Immobilizer key incorrect P– Engine control ignition relay feedback Hi B+ P069E – Fuel pump control module request MIL (malfunction indicator lamp) P– Accelerator pedal position sensor correlation U– Lost communication with EBCM (electronic brake control module) U– Lost communication with BCM (body control module) Because all codes could be related to a bad battery, [redacted] was recommended to replace the battery and retest [redacted] approved that repair, battery was replaced, codes were cleared and the vehicle was driven through a drive cycle to force on-board-diagnostic to run The codes that reset were Pand Pand no other condition was noted [redacted] was contacted to perform diagnostics for the EVAP codes which was approved showing purge valves needs to be replaced which [redacted] approved A second drive cycle was performed with no codes rest and vehicle operating properly at that time A total of miles were driven from vehicle cheand deliver to ***12/9/14, AAMCO was contacted by [redacted] stating that the vehicle was in reduced power mode I offered to tow vehicle in as it was in Sour Lake, and [redacted] declined and drove the vehicle from Sour Lake [redacted] stated, “service stabilitrac system and reduced engine power was on the information center Original repair done by AAMCO was done 9/29/for the same thing” Note that the original repairs were done for battery and EVAP purge valve as other conditions were not present at the time we inspected the vehicle I personally scanned this vehicle the day it came to the center and found the following code in history (not currently active): P– Throttle position sensor (TPS) 1-corrolationNO messages were displayed in the Information Center I drove the vehicle through a drive cycle and no active codes were set and the vehicle operation was normal The actual appointment for a technician to recheck the vehicle was the following day with the same result Although unable to duplicate [redacted] concern, I researched the condition and found a GM Technical Service Bulletin 07-06-04-019B which addressed the condition [redacted] was stating This intermittent condition could be caused by water intrusion to a connector in the driver side kick panel Based on this information from General Motors, I made the recommendation to perform this service as there was no other diagnostic routine because the condition was not occurring at that time The cost would be $to remove the kick panel, inspect the connection for water intrusion, re-install the kick panel and update the main computer software to the latest calibration This recommendation was declined and the vehicle was released to ***Additional Note: This vehicle was referred to AAMCO because we have a National Fleet Agreement with [redacted] extended warranty provider Selling repairs that can not be duplicated and verified would be fraudulent as we would have to state to MaxCare CAN that we experienced and verified a condition that we could not duplicate

Dear *** ***,As explained in our response to the initial complaint the condition expressed by the customer and allegedly confirmed by Classic Chevrolet was not occurring on Ms***'s initial visit On the first visit a DTC (Diagnostic Trouble Code) for the Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor was present along with two loss of communication codes and the battery test was so low volts/amps the tester could not print the resultsWe charged the battery for minutes and still could not print test results due to low volts/amps This battery condition will cause multiple ELECTRONIC DTC's After replacing the battery, which was approved by Ms***, the only DTC's reset were the the EVAP codes, which she also approvedMs*** made three visits for her complaint of REDUCED ENGINE POWER & STABILITRAC SYSTEM and on our test and drive there were no ACTIVE DTC's and NO REDUCED ENGINE POWER OR STABILITRAC SYSTEM LIGHT ON THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER If an INTERMITTENT ELECTRICAL CONDITION IS NOT PRESENT WHEN TESTING A VEHICLE WE CAN NOT MAKE AN ACCURATE RECOMMENDATION FOR REPAIR.This was all explained in my initial response to Ms***'s original complaint Please let me know what additional steps we can take to resolve this issue.Respectfully,*** ***AAMCO Transmissions & Total Car CareEastex FwyBeaumont, Texas

On 9/19/14 AAMCO RO#[redacted] was opened for [redacted] 2010 Chevrolet Equinox LT.  [redacted] stated that “reduced engine power and service stabilitrac system is on in the message information center”.  [redacted] also stated Classic Chevrolet had told her that her electronic throttle body,...

electronic accelerator pedal position sensor and EVAP purse valve needed to be replaced.  [redacted] was referenced to us by her extended warranty company, MaxCare CNA, because AAMCO has a national account with them.  Because electronically controlled vehicles rely on a properly operating electrical system, we performed a battery, starter, and alternator test with the results being that the battery must be replaced.  Codes stored in the vehicle main computer were as follows: P0442 – EVAP small leak P0496 – EVAP flow during non-purge function P0513 – Immobilizer key incorrect P0690 – Engine control ignition relay feedback Hi B+ P069E – Fuel pump control module request MIL (malfunction indicator lamp) P2138 – Accelerator pedal position sensor 12 correlation U0121 – Lost communication with EBCM (electronic brake control module) U0141 – Lost communication with BCM (body control module) Because all codes could be related to a bad battery, [redacted] was recommended to replace the battery and retest.  [redacted] approved that repair, battery was replaced, codes were cleared and the vehicle was driven through a drive cycle to force on-board-diagnostic to run.  The codes that reset were P0442 and P0496 and no other condition was noted.  [redacted] was contacted to perform diagnostics for the EVAP codes which was approved showing purge valves needs to be replaced which [redacted] approved.  A second drive cycle was performed with no codes rest and vehicle operating properly at that time.  A total of 12 miles were driven from vehicle check-in and deliver to [redacted]. 12/9/14, AAMCO was contacted by [redacted] stating that the vehicle was in reduced power mode.  I offered to tow vehicle in as it was in Sour Lake, and [redacted] declined and drove the vehicle from Sour Lake.  [redacted] stated, “service stabilitrac system and reduced engine power was on the information center.  Original repair done by AAMCO was done 9/29/14 for the same thing”.  Note that the original repairs were done for battery and EVAP purge valve as other conditions were not present at the time we inspected the vehicle.  I personally scanned this vehicle the day it came to the center and found the following code in history (not currently active): P2135 – Throttle position sensor (TPS) 1-2 corrolation. NO messages were displayed in the Information Center.  I drove the vehicle through a drive cycle and no active codes were set and the vehicle operation was normal.  The actual appointment for a technician to recheck the vehicle was the following day with the same result.  Although unable to duplicate [redacted] concern, I researched the condition and found a GM Technical Service Bulletin 07-06-04-019B which addressed the condition [redacted] was stating.  This intermittent condition could be caused by water intrusion to a connector in the driver side kick panel.  Based on this information from General Motors, I made the recommendation to perform this service as there was no other diagnostic routine because the condition was not occurring at that time.  The cost would be $345.24 to remove the kick panel, inspect the connection for water intrusion, re-install the kick panel and update the main computer software to the latest calibration.  This recommendation was declined and the vehicle was released to [redacted]. Additional Note:  This vehicle was referred to AAMCO because we have a National Fleet Agreement with [redacted] extended warranty provider.  Selling repairs that can not be duplicated and verified would be fraudulent as we would have to state to MaxCare CAN that we experienced and verified a condition that we could not duplicate.

Complaint: 10362543
I am rejecting this response because: Again, Classic and Cowboy both determined that I needed the throttle body replaced as well as the floor pedal sensor. There is no way that Aamco should have missed this diagnosis unless they are not properly equipped to make an accurate diagnosis.  On both occasions that my vehicle was brought to Aamco, the service stabilitrac system as well as the check engine light were on. The vehicle was in reduced engine power mode on BOTH occasions.  If they could not properly diagnose my vehicle, they should have advised me of this and I could have taken it somewhere else. In the end, Aamco didn't do anything but cost me more money and put the lives of me and my children at risk.  I spoke to Aamco customer service regarding this and was also advised that I should NOT have had an diagnostic fee since the repairs were done at Aamco. The only solution I want is half of the $250 deductible that I had to pay to Cowboy Chevrolet to get my vehicle fixed, since Aamco could not do so.
Sincerely,
[redacted]

As stated in my response if the conditions I proposed are not acceptable to Mr. [redacted] I would request mediation. [redacted]AMCO Transmission & Total Car Care3270 Eastex FwyBeaumont, Texas 77703409-899-2001

Complaint: 10362543
I am rejecting this response because: Please note, my extended warranty company approved the work order to replace purge valve, to replace the floor pedal sensor, and to replace the throttle body at Classic. However, Classic felt that the warranty company was making their labor too cheap because it was supposed to be based on a report for the labor times in my area and not their expected labor time to repair. It was then that I contacted my warranty company and they asked me to bring it to Aamco since Classic did not want to accept their labor costs. Upon my arrival to Aamco from Classic, I presented the work order from Classic to Aamco. I explained what needed to be done as this repair order is from a CHEVROLET dealership who specializes in my make of vehicle! After approving them to replace the battery as Classic did also advise of this, 2 days later I got a phone call from Aamco stating that I only needed the purge valve replaced. I asked multiple times if they were sure that I didn't need the floor pedal sensor replaced because the Service Manager at Classic advised me that the throttle body and the floor pedal sensor where the most important and that if I did not get them repaired the car would eventually not be able to go far at all. I specifically asked Aamco if they were sure as I have children and did not want to have this same issue months down the road and them be in the car when it does happen. They assured me that I did not need the floor pedal sensor or throttle body. Sure enough, in December, it happened again. I called them and brought the car back on my lunch break. I did not hear from them so around 4 pm I called Aamco and asked if my vehicle had been looked at and I was told that it had NOT as they were short on technicians and that it would have to be looked at in the morning. The next day, I received a phone call stating that they could not duplicate the issue. However, there was a GM bulletin to remove the kick panel and do a diagnostic for over $300 with no assurance that this could be the issue. I declined. The moment that I left Aamco in the vehicle, the reduced engine power, service stabilitrac system warning came one. I was feet from there building. I was furious and vowed never to bring it back there again. I called Chevrolet customer service and explained the situation to them. The soonest appointment that I could have was 12/30/14 with Cowboy Chevrolet in Silsbee. On 12/30/14, I received a call from Cowboy explaining that I needed the throttle body replaced as well as the floor pedal sensor. She explained that the technician was easily able to diagnose this. My vehicle was not able to be driven until after I picked it up from Cowboy on 12/31/14. If Aamco would have replaced the throttle body as well as the floor pedal sensor, I would have only had to pay the deductible of $250.00 once, but since they did not, I had to not only pay them, but pay the deductible of $250 to have what should have been done back in September repaired in December. Initially, when I called to complain that Cowboy advised that the throttle body and floor pedal sensor needed to be replaced. I spoke to a gentlemen who said that he understood and he apologized and asked how much my deductible was. He said that he was going to see what he could do and call me back. Instead, I received a phone call from someone else and  his theory:  "If I come to him and say I have the flu and he says no you don't have the flu, but I call him 2 weeks later and say I definitely have the flu. All he could say is that I didn't have the flu when he saw me 2 weeks ago." I find it very hard to believe that Classic was able to determine that I need to have the floor pedal sensor and the throttle body replaced and Cowboy was able to determine the same thing, but Aamco wasn't able to and I brought my vehicle to them on 2 separate occasions after Classic and before Cowboy. 
Sincerely,
[redacted]

Mr. [redacted] contacted us in reference to replacing his engine in his 1994 Ford Ranger with a used engine and requested it to have 65,000 miles or less.  I researched the available market and found an engine with 66,000 miles.  Contacting Mr. [redacted] with an estimate to replace his engine,...

clutch, clutch slave cylinder, machine flywheel, repair shifter seat, engine oil change, all labor (which includes customer supplied parts radiator, thermostat, spark plugs, distributor cap, and rotor) and tax for $4,933.50.  Mr. [redacted] requested the VIN for the vehicle the engine came out of and wanted to verify the mileage which was his stipulation for approving the job.  I supplied the VIN to Mr. [redacted] at which time he asked what we needed to do to proceed.  I explained to Mr. [redacted] that used parts were a first come first serve basis and in order to insure he would get this engine he had to bring me payment of $1,800 as this was a non-returnable item.  Mr. [redacted] brought me a cashiers check which I verified with Teachers Federal Credit Union and I ordered the used engine 2/16/2016. At this point I produced a hard copy estimate to provide a receipt to Mr. [redacted] and the final total came out to $4,163.74 which was less than my original estimate that I provided over the phone. This is still an estimate as we have yet to inspect the vehicle. Mr. [redacted] towed or pushed his vehicle to our shop on Friday evening 2/19/2016 and returned on Monday 2/22/2016 with his supplied parts.  We received the engine the same day and Mr. [redacted] was given a copy of my invoice which did not show my supplier or my pricing.  This invoice did reflect the VIN that was given to Mr. [redacted] prior to his appro[redacted] and delivery of cashiers check and an inventory tag which came with the engine.  The invoice and inventory tag have corresponding part numbers on them which links the engine to the VIN from the vehicle. Mr. [redacted] then was requesting information about the supplier which I contracted with in the purchase of the engine. We do not give out that information as Mr. [redacted]'s agreement is with me not my supplier.  In an effort to accommodate Mr. [redacted] gave him a copy of the original Invoice from our supplier without the supplier info only to reflect the VIN and Inv. Number to tie back to the mileage. The original invoice was hard to copy so [redacted] asked them for a better copy and they reprinted it and had a different Work Order #. At that point Mr. [redacted] made a comment that was indistinguishable and said he would be in touch in 24 hours. Mr. [redacted] is aware that this is a used non-refundable engine. Due to the strained relationship Mr. [redacted] appears to have at this time we do not wish to continue with the repairs on his vehicle. I am willing to supply Mr. [redacted] with the vendors name so that he can have his warranty on the engine. I will return all parts Mr. [redacted] has supplied for installation and Mr. [redacted] will only owe the tax on the $1,800 engine which is $148.50. If this is not agreeable to Mr. [redacted] I would request proceeding directly to mediation. [redacted] AAMCO Transmission & Total Car Care 3270 Eastex Fwy Beaumont, Texas 77703 409-899-2001

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