Complaint: [redacted] We are rejecting this response because: Joe is not telling the truthWe have a signed contract from Joe that states "WE HEREBY PROPOSE TO FURNISH THE MATERIALS AND PERFORM THE LABOR NECCESSARY FOR THE COMPLETION OF; INSTALL A CURVED KEYSTONE WALL IN BACKYARD WITH TWO SETS OF CONCRETE STEPSSee attached photo of contract.Joe did the curved wall and I did tell him it was nice workHere is where the truth is not toldWhile doing the curved wall joe had ordered to much "gravel" and told me he was sorry he did order to much gravelI said do not worry about it as I will use it to fill in other areasI said we paid for it we will use it don't worry about itNow this gravel was for filling in the curved wall and NOT intended for the concrete work at allI know this because Joe told me he ordered to much gravel and another time when we discussed finishing the steps/ramp he told me he was going to "wait" and do that area when we had a larger concrete slab poured for the gazeboI told Joe that is not going to happen until next year and I needed him to get the work done that was paid for in fullThat is when the "arguing" startedThat is when Joe tried to blame us for using our over ordered paid in full, gravelThat is also when Joe told me "you will not get anyone to do this concrete work for $dollars"I had to show Joe his old text where he did indeed charge us $for the concrete work, and was already paid in fullHe told us he did not want to pour the concrete in the cold and asked if he could do it when it warmed up outsideWe agreed to allow that knowing it was paid in full, we trusted JoeHe remembered after he saw the old textJoe left and we did not hear from him for 10-days On or about March 20th joe was over to look at the job again and measure up for another gravel projectMarch 23rd he finally text me againJoe came over and formed up the stairs and yes we discussed our added concrete landing at the top of the stairs and yes, he said it would be an extra $dollarsI paid him on the spot in cash and he said ok I'll get it doneIn the meantime I was moving our gravel to the designated spot my wife wanted itOn the 25th of March when I was at a doctors appointment Joe texted he was heading over to do our concrete workI said fine I will be home when I am doneThat is when Joe arrived and stated we used "his" gravel for the concrete and now he cannot do the workThe very gravel that he told me he over estimated and ordered to much, and I told him face to face, don't worry about it I will use it in other areas of the yardNow Joe did another $4,gravel project in our yard and that was paid in cash and paid in full when he finished the workIt is always 1/the cost down and the rest when finishedJoe is always paid in cashNever paid lateWe still have not got the contract for this work even after asking for it several timesHe stated he would drop it off and never hasJoe also under ordered one type of gravel we wanted, and Joe over ordered the other gravel that was needed for this projectWhen the truck came to deliver the first load Joe told me ***, I need $dollars for delivery charge or they will not drop the gravelI am not sure why that was not paid for when we paid him $2,down to start this projectAnyway, I gave him that money in cash so the truck would not leaveI never once asked for this money back, yet I should or it should have been deducted from our proposal as a creditJoe called me outside and told me he was sorry but under ordered one type of gravel to fill in on the East side of our homeHe asked if it would be ok to use the other colored "over ordered" gravel in the area on the East side of the houseHe was not sure if he had enough of the over ordered gravel to fill in that area, but wanted to know if he could use what he hadMy wife did not want that color over thereI told Joe go ahead and use that over ordered gravel on the East side of the house and I will deal with my wifeSo I did Joe a favor by paying an already paid for delivery charge again, or the truck was going to leaveI did Joe a favor by using another over ordered gavel, once again, when he did not have enough of the original gravel to use on the East side of our homeWe have been very accommodating to help Joe out of his OVER/UNDER orders of gravel, and have done so several times, while being double charged for materials/FeesAgain, these funds just like the added landing above the stairs were paid in cash on the spotI had another gravel project (3rd one) for Joe to lay rock five feet out from the curved keystone wall he builtHe gave an estimate of around $3,that is when the wife said no more money until all the work we paid for already is completedThat would be the stairs, ramp and landingI told Joe he needed to finish the work paid for before any other work will be doneNow we are here trying to resolve this matterJoe told me to "sue him" before I suggested going to the Revdex.comI told Joe we had no hard feelings and that the signed contract we have is all we needed to win in courtI said I will file a complaint with the Revdex.com first with the hopes of resolving this matter and court would be another option if neededJoe's response was OKSince this is now holding up our large projects I decided to measure up the 3rd gravel project myselfI went to [redacted] (Joes gravel supplier) and showed them my measurementsThey told me how much rock I needed and the costI asked them to deliver it and they added that cost as well ($30.00)I added a roll of weed barrier ($100.00) and the total bill for all materials came to under $dollarsI had the rock delivered and did that project myself in hoursThe same job that was going to be over $3,I did for under $That now makes us feel Joe is not on a level playing field and may be why we cannot get our other contract and material receipts that Joe said he would drop off several timesHe has been asked several times after he said he would drop them off, we still do not have them to date.With all that said, we feel now what needs to be done to resolve this is Joe needs to allow us to hire another third party contractor to watch him complete the steps and rampThis would be a neutral person who knows the trade, since we do not, and a person of our choosing or the recommendation of the Revdex.comJoe would have to pay half of the cost for this person to be present as the concrete work is being doneWe require a one year warranty on the concrete work from the day it is pouredWe require our other contract for the work Joe did already, and we would like to have a copy of any permits that were pulled along with a copy of Joes required New Mexico contractors license that allows him to do this work in the state of New MexicoOnce all these items have been obtained in our possession, Joe can start the concrete work that has been paid in full for several months alreadyOtherwise a refund of $1,cash and Joe walks awayHere is how Arrive at this price$for the steps and ramp in proposalPaid in fullCould have been in the bank collecting interest $cash paid for the landing at top of steps, which Joe agreed to in this complaint and has been paid for in full since last month$delivery fee to allow Joe to keep working our project or the truck would not drop the gravel that has been paid in full$for the delay of our large project by Joe not completing his obligations per the signed contract on time as agreed toSee attached signed contract Regards, [redacted] [To assist us in bringing this matter to a close, the consumer must give a reason why they are rejecting the responseIf the consumer does not provide a reason the complaint will be closed Answered]
Complaint: [redacted] I am rejecting this response because: I will agree to this as long as the work is done within two weeks (may 6, or sooner) and we get a one year warranty in writing on the concrete workThe complaint needs to remain open until the work is completed Regards, [redacted] [To assist us in bringing this matter to a close, the consumer must give a reason why they are rejecting the responseIf the consumer does not provide a reason the complaint will be closed Answered]
Complaint: [redacted] We are rejecting this response because: Joe is not telling the truthWe have a signed contract from Joe that states "WE HEREBY PROPOSE TO FURNISH THE MATERIALS AND PERFORM THE LABOR NECCESSARY FOR THE COMPLETION OF; INSTALL A CURVED KEYSTONE WALL IN BACKYARD WITH TWO SETS OF CONCRETE STEPSSee attached photo of contract.Joe did the curved wall and I did tell him it was nice workHere is where the truth is not toldWhile doing the curved wall joe had ordered to much "gravel" and told me he was sorry he did order to much gravelI said do not worry about it as I will use it to fill in other areasI said we paid for it we will use it don't worry about itNow this gravel was for filling in the curved wall and NOT intended for the concrete work at allI know this because Joe told me he ordered to much gravel and another time when we discussed finishing the steps/ramp he told me he was going to "wait" and do that area when we had a larger concrete slab poured for the gazeboI told Joe that is not going to happen until next year and I needed him to get the work done that was paid for in fullThat is when the "arguing" startedThat is when Joe tried to blame us for using our over ordered paid in full, gravelThat is also when Joe told me "you will not get anyone to do this concrete work for $dollars"I had to show Joe his old text where he did indeed charge us $for the concrete work, and was already paid in fullHe told us he did not want to pour the concrete in the cold and asked if he could do it when it warmed up outsideWe agreed to allow that knowing it was paid in full, we trusted JoeHe remembered after he saw the old textJoe left and we did not hear from him for 10-days On or about March 20th joe was over to look at the job again and measure up for another gravel projectMarch 23rd he finally text me againJoe came over and formed up the stairs and yes we discussed our added concrete landing at the top of the stairs and yes, he said it would be an extra $dollarsI paid him on the spot in cash and he said ok I'll get it doneIn the meantime I was moving our gravel to the designated spot my wife wanted itOn the 25th of March when I was at a doctors appointment Joe texted he was heading over to do our concrete workI said fine I will be home when I am doneThat is when Joe arrived and stated we used "his" gravel for the concrete and now he cannot do the workThe very gravel that he told me he over estimated and ordered to much, and I told him face to face, don't worry about it I will use it in other areas of the yardNow Joe did another $4,gravel project in our yard and that was paid in cash and paid in full when he finished the workIt is always 1/the cost down and the rest when finishedJoe is always paid in cashNever paid lateWe still have not got the contract for this work even after asking for it several timesHe stated he would drop it off and never hasJoe also under ordered one type of gravel we wanted, and Joe over ordered the other gravel that was needed for this projectWhen the truck came to deliver the first load Joe told me ***, I need $dollars for delivery charge or they will not drop the gravelI am not sure why that was not paid for when we paid him $2,down to start this projectAnyway, I gave him that money in cash so the truck would not leaveI never once asked for this money back, yet I should or it should have been deducted from our proposal as a creditJoe called me outside and told me he was sorry but under ordered one type of gravel to fill in on the East side of our homeHe asked if it would be ok to use the other colored "over ordered" gravel in the area on the East side of the houseHe was not sure if he had enough of the over ordered gravel to fill in that area, but wanted to know if he could use what he hadMy wife did not want that color over thereI told Joe go ahead and use that over ordered gravel on the East side of the house and I will deal with my wifeSo I did Joe a favor by paying an already paid for delivery charge again, or the truck was going to leaveI did Joe a favor by using another over ordered gavel, once again, when he did not have enough of the original gravel to use on the East side of our homeWe have been very accommodating to help Joe out of his OVER/UNDER orders of gravel, and have done so several times, while being double charged for materials/FeesAgain, these funds just like the added landing above the stairs were paid in cash on the spotI had another gravel project (3rd one) for Joe to lay rock five feet out from the curved keystone wall he builtHe gave an estimate of around $3,that is when the wife said no more money until all the work we paid for already is completedThat would be the stairs, ramp and landingI told Joe he needed to finish the work paid for before any other work will be doneNow we are here trying to resolve this matterJoe told me to "sue him" before I suggested going to the Revdex.comI told Joe we had no hard feelings and that the signed contract we have is all we needed to win in courtI said I will file a complaint with the Revdex.com first with the hopes of resolving this matter and court would be another option if neededJoe's response was OKSince this is now holding up our large projects I decided to measure up the 3rd gravel project myselfI went to [redacted] (Joes gravel supplier) and showed them my measurementsThey told me how much rock I needed and the costI asked them to deliver it and they added that cost as well ($30.00)I added a roll of weed barrier ($100.00) and the total bill for all materials came to under $dollarsI had the rock delivered and did that project myself in hoursThe same job that was going to be over $3,I did for under $That now makes us feel Joe is not on a level playing field and may be why we cannot get our other contract and material receipts that Joe said he would drop off several timesHe has been asked several times after he said he would drop them off, we still do not have them to date.With all that said, we feel now what needs to be done to resolve this is Joe needs to allow us to hire another third party contractor to watch him complete the steps and rampThis would be a neutral person who knows the trade, since we do not, and a person of our choosing or the recommendation of the Revdex.comJoe would have to pay half of the cost for this person to be present as the concrete work is being doneWe require a one year warranty on the concrete work from the day it is pouredWe require our other contract for the work Joe did already, and we would like to have a copy of any permits that were pulled along with a copy of Joes required New Mexico contractors license that allows him to do this work in the state of New MexicoOnce all these items have been obtained in our possession, Joe can start the concrete work that has been paid in full for several months alreadyOtherwise a refund of $1,cash and Joe walks awayHere is how Arrive at this price$for the steps and ramp in proposalPaid in fullCould have been in the bank collecting interest $cash paid for the landing at top of steps, which Joe agreed to in this complaint and has been paid for in full since last month$delivery fee to allow Joe to keep working our project or the truck would not drop the gravel that has been paid in full$for the delay of our large project by Joe not completing his obligations per the signed contract on time as agreed toSee attached signed contract Regards, [redacted] [To assist us in bringing this matter to a close, the consumer must give a reason why they are rejecting the responseIf the consumer does not provide a reason the complaint will be closed Answered]
Complaint: [redacted] I am rejecting this response because: I will agree to this as long as the work is done within two weeks (may 6, or sooner) and we get a one year warranty in writing on the concrete workThe complaint needs to remain open until the work is completed Regards, [redacted] [To assist us in bringing this matter to a close, the consumer must give a reason why they are rejecting the responseIf the consumer does not provide a reason the complaint will be closed Answered]