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[redacted] is smart, nice and thorough, I will ask for him again! Thank you.

Initial Business Response /* (1000, 8, 2015/09/16) */
This is the second time responding to this complaint as the customer also filed with Angie's List. For the record, I already sent a $20 check to the customer as a counter offer to his request for a refund. That is all Magic Plumbing is...

willing to offer refund. I will paste below the letter I submitted to Angie's List in response to this complaint, but first want to reiterate the most important aspect of this complaint that makes it unjustified, at least in the eyes of the service provider.
Magic Plumbing was called out to inspect a leak, which we did, and did in fact find a plumbing leak. We charged for our time and left. 10 weeks later the customer calls back to say we never fixed the problem. This is the basis for our stance on the complaint. Why would it take 10 weeks for a customer to call us back about a leak we were looking for that wasn't found? It would seem a call for this leak would have happened shortly after our visit if this leak was still present. Instead, the call for a return trip is make almost 3 months later. Upon receiving the call from Mr. [redacted] it was simply stated that I make no promises of any warranty or refunding of money but would take into consideration monies already spent. However, before making any determinations a technician needed to see what was going on so we could move forward with a solution. Magic Plumbing was never afforded the opportunity.
A more detailed account of the interaction between myself and the customer is detailed below in the letter I submitted to Angie's List. Please bear in mind this letter was written on 8/17/2015 and since then I have refunded $20 to the customer.
In response to Mr. [redacted]'s complaint, Magic Plumbing will not honor the request for a refund. The reasoning behind this decision is described in detail below.
A leak search in itself is a billable service. It promises no resolution or repair, simply expertise and time spent looking for a leak source. In this instance, we were called out to investigate a leak from the dishwasher into the garage. We ran the dishwasher, and the kitchen sink, and the ice maker on the fridge, and all fixtures on both the 2nd and 3rd floors before finding a leak from a crack around the tub that needed to be caulked. We were not able to produce any other leaks so it was assumed our job was complete. We charged $200 which was paid by Mr. [redacted] without any complaint. This was on May 12th.
On July 28th, well over two months from our initial visit, we receive a call from Mr. [redacted] who inquires as to our warranty. I tell him that a leak search is not a repair but a service and doesn't carry a warranty. He announces there is still a leak and we didn't fix the problem. I acknowledge that we didn't fix the problem because we didn't find a problem, other than the tub crack which he fixed himself. I offered to send another technician back to investigate further, he asked me if there would be another charge. I told him it all depended on how the visit unfolded but that I would be fair and of course would take into consideration the $200 he had already spent. Though sympathetic to the fact there had been money already invested, a leak we investigated ten weeks ago that seemingly has returned does not make us responsible for the leak.
After a bit of back and forth trying to explain my position on the matter, Mr. [redacted] asked if we can open a wall and fix a leaking drain line because he seemed to have determined where the problem was. I said yes, of course. He asked how much it would cost. I told him there was no way for me to price a job without having a technician see it first. Mr. [redacted] insisted I provide a price so I said gave him my best guess of $600. Again, there is no logical way for me, the service manager-not even a technician, to price a job site unseen, but I did anyway against my better judgment. Insisting I credit back the original $200 of the repair, I agreed to discount the service $100. Admittedly, I backed off of that promise instead offering 10% discount, but again reiterated that I would be more than fair and just wanted to fix the issue. Mr. [redacted] agreed to have a technician stop by the following day.
The next morning, before the schedule time, Mr. [redacted] cancelled the appointment. I later learned by reading his review he hired another company who completed the repair for less than I quoted. I'm certainly glad the problem was resolved though comparing the price to my site-unseen quote is a bit unfair and should not be an indictment on my company's integrity.
In the end, it's unfortunate this situation escalated to the level it has. If Magic Plumbing was afforded the opportunity to return and further investigate the leak, I'm confident a resolution to Mr. [redacted]'s satisfaction would have been reached. It is never our intent to leave customers dissatisfied and we go to great lengths to ensure this doesn't happen. As an Angie's List customer, there should have been a 5% discount applied to the service which was not. I will gladly mail a check for the difference to Mr. [redacted].
Initial Consumer Rebuttal /* (3000, 10, 2015/09/18) */
(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
Angie's List advised me to contact Revdex.com.
The $20 was never offered and I am not accepting $20.
Here is why:
I hired them to fix the leak, not to detect it. I specifically asked the dispatcher if they were equipped to open up walls and deal with old cast iron pipes.
2. When their technician arrived in May he would not open up the wall and that's the crux of the matter - they did not do what they were asked to do.
Instead the serviceman spent a long time looking for an alternative cause and unfortunately was able to find it - he blamed cracks in bathroom calking for the leak.
Though I was doubtful, I had no proof that he was wrong, so I paid.
Once I saw the pipe being replaced by another provider, it became clear to me that I paid Magic Plumbing $200 for nothing.
Final Business Response /* (4000, 15, 2015/10/09) */
After careful consideration, Magic Plumbing is standing by it's decision and will not be offering a refund. It is always in our best interest to fulfill our customer's expectations, and this instance was no different. If afforded the opportunity I'm confident Magic Plumbing would have resolved the issue to the customer's satisfaction, however that was not the case. It took nearly three months for the customer to advise Magic Plumbing the leak we were originally looking for was still present. After making an appointment to have our technician come back out the customer decided to cancel and chose to hire another company. We respect the customer's decision as sometimes its best to explore other options. I hope our decision can be respected as well.
Final Consumer Response /* (4200, 17, 2015/10/12) */
(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
Magic Plumbing have not offered any solution.
They seem to try and subvert the Revdex.com dispute resolution process with verbose vacuous statements.

WONDERFUL SERVICE FROM START TO FINISH.[redacted] WAS VERY HELPFUL AND [redacted] DID A GREAT JOB ,ABOVE AND BEYOND .HAPPY,HAPPY,HAPPY...

on time and did the job in a professional manner.

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