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Address: 3245 University Ave, San Diego, California, United States, 92104
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Review: We contracted with Nature's Elements Landscaping to perform bi-weekly yard maintenance services. We moved from San Diego out of state in July 2011 and rented the house. We retained Nature's Elements as our landscaper.Every time we visited San Diego, we were dismayed at how the yard looked. Often, the plants were overgrown. When we complained and asked that the plants be trimmed, we were billed extra for dumping fees. We made many attempts to communicate our needs to Nature's Elements, including e-mails, phone calls, and an in-person meeting with Jesse in February 2013. There were many times when we did not receive a reply to e-mails. We were also often billed for services that we did not authorize in advance. When we requested that we authorize all services in advance and that we receive a schedule of fees, we received no reply. In April 2013, we visited the house and found the grass mostly dead. The irrigation systems were turned off. When we turned them back on, there were clearly leaks in the drip lines that had not been addressed. We were horrified and immediately cancelled our contract. We know from our tenants that Nature's Elements provided one service on April 6th but we do not have evidence that they provided a second service in April. Overall, we feel that Nature's Elements took advantage of us not being in town and provided an inferior level of service. We now have to pay someone to fix the sprinklers, restore the grass, and replace dead plants.Desired Settlement: Full remedies and any other relief just and proper.
Business
Response:
Dear Revdex.com May
29,2013
We did not receive
this letter of complaint and the Revdex.com email was in our Spam folder on May 29. We
are not sure if you have our correct address as we did not receive
anything. This is our address: [redacted] San Diego, CA 923104.
In response to
complaint [redacted]. These have been customers of ours for four years. Their
complaint that we provided less than adequate service does not have any merit. Our pricing billing systems have not changed
since they started using our services. If they had been unsatisfied with our
services they would not have entrusted us to maintain their property during
their absence and maintained our services for so long after. Because of this long term relationship we went
beyond the scope of most landscape companies.
In addition to providing them before and after pictures, all of their requests
were immediately forwarded to our crew to address any situation. The emails from them were put in a special
folder for reference.
To address some of the concerns:
We try to respond to
our customers within one business day. Holidays
make take longer. From our records we
see that this customer did email us more than once during a 24 hr period asking
for more pictures or requests. She did
not give us the opportunity to respond within a business day.
We do send out
regular surveys to check the status of our customer's needs and to see if they
are happy with our services. The only
response we received from these customers was on Oct. 14th 2012, in response to
the survey emailed out on Oct. 3 2012.
In this email the only mention of serves quality needs was for more
communication, which we followed up on and ensured more photos of their
property were taken by our crew.
Customers are
informed during their initial consultation that services such as fertilizing,
repairs, aeration, pest control and dump fees for debris are extra. It takes
extra labor time, gas or product to perform these service and customers are
never billed for services that were not performed. There was a meeting with the client on
February 21st. Services were authorized
at that time as witnessed and noted by another management member. These services were performed as requested.
Her concern that she
did not get two visits in April was researched. Our records show they were
there April 6 as her tenant confirmed. The second visit was April 16th from
3-3:45pm. Our crew follows a schedule and fills out a log when they visit
properties. Their phones are also equipped with GPS tracking so we know where
they are at.
The complaint that the drip line had
some leaks is common for an older system. An estimate to put in more bark was
sent over to the customer on 02/21/13 but they decided to do it themselves.
Over time bark decomposes and a fresh deeper layer helps cover the line so it
is not exposed to the sun and becomes dry or brittle. Lines are checked and maintenance repairs
would have been addressed if these issues were found. Repairs
and parts are not included in the basic package and would have had to be billed.
The tenant did not inform us that the timer was
off or sprinklers were leaking. Had we seen these issues on the April 16th
visit the clients would have been informed.
We also sent all of our customers a reminder to check their timers and
set them for longer watering cycles on 04/19/13 since there was hot weather
approaching and lawns will dry out faster. This is not the first time the timer being
turned off has come up and we emailed the customer of the problem. She had to
get her tenant to let us in the garage. The
customer states in her letter that the timer was off when they visited in April.
According to our email records that visit was April 27th. Unfortunately once
the system is turned off, the condition of the grass is out of our control. We do not know how long the water was off after our visit. Plants can die without water
in a matter of days. The plants were not getting
water because the timer was off. Only the tenant has access to the garage where
the timer is located.
We have been in
business 9 years and have hundreds of satisfied customers and referrals. We
pride ourselves on the partnerships we build. We take seriously any concerns or
complaints. We take responsibility for
any issues that we are at fault. Unfortunately plants are perishable and
factors like pests, disease and weather
can affect well being. But aside from those
factors, thirsty lawns and plants that are not being watered will not
survive. It is completely unreasonable
to expect us to pay to replace the grass and plants when the timer for the water was shut off. The timer is in
the garage and the crew does not have
access to it. Our policy states "Irrigation timers
are to be inspected by client on a regular basis. Crew will only touch or
inspect timers if instructed to do so by client. Client is responsible for
ensuring timer is working and watering. Customer is ultimately responsible for
the well being of plant and lawn area." Neither
the tenant or client informed us of any issues with watering or
sprinklers. Our crew was does not have
the access to turn off the timer to water plants. For these reasons stated we
do not feel we have an obligation to replace or restore their grass.
Sincerely [redacted]
Consumer
Response:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID [redacted], and have determined that this proposed action would not resolve my complaint. For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.
June 2, 2013
Dear Revdex.com of San Diego,
Thank you for the opportunity to respond to the letter
submitted to you by Nature’s Elements on May 29, 2013 in regards to Revdex.com
complaint [redacted]. While thorough, Nature’s Elements’ letter is not factually
correct. We have detailed these inaccuracies and have provided copies of our
email communications with Nature’s Elements to serve as evidence. Each issue is
discussed below:
1. Location of sprinkler controls: There
are two sprinkler timers for the house. The
timer for the front yard is located in the crawl space under the house in the
front yard. There is no lock on the door to the crawl space. The sprinkler timer
for the backyard is located in the garage.
Nature’s Elements was aware that there were timers in both places. Reference
to the timer located in the crawl space is documented in the e-mail dated
February 11, 2012. However, in their response, Nature’s Elements response only
discussed the timer in the garage. Clearly, Nature’s Elements had been informed
of the location of both timers and certainly should have been aware of both
timers after four years of service.
2. Responsibility for adjusting timers: Nature’s
Elements states that it is the responsibility of customers to adjust irrigation
timers. This assertion is contrary to the several times that Nature’s Elements often
promised orally and in writing to adjust the irrigation. This can be seen in the attached e-mail chains
dated January 8, 2012 and July 6, 2012. These e-mails also show that we readily
gave access to the garage with advance notice. Further, their website also
promises testing the irrigation system and “inspecting for leaks” as part of
their standard maintenance contract.
3. Request to turn water back on in December
2012: On December 20 and 23, 2012, we notified Nature’s Elements via email that
we had turned off the sprinkler timers because everything was saturated and
that we wanted them to turn them back on. On December 26, 2012, [redacted] replied
that he would notify the crew. We were never informed about whether the timers
were turned back on. We trusted that it had been done. After recently reviewing
our water bills, it is clear that there was a dramatic decrease in water usage
from late December 2012 through late April 2013. The decrease in water use
suggests that the water was turned off for significant periods from December
2012 to April 2013. See the attached water bill documents showing the usage for
2013 compared to 2012.
4. Work Requested in February 2013: On
February 21, 2013, [redacted] met with [redacted] and Jamie at the house. Several issues were discussed, including the
grass health, pruning needs, mulch, and weeds in the side yard near the water
heater. The front and backyard timers were
discussed. Nature’s Elements promised to adjust the timer after the rainy
season. It had been raining enough that
the grass was not dead; in fact it was saturated and muddy. We received an estimate for mulch as discussed
separately below. The weeds in the side yard were never addressed and were
quite high when we went to the house on April 28, 2013. [redacted] was not told at
that time that fertilization of the grass would be taking place that month.
This was disputed in the attached email dated 3/5/13.
5. Condition of grass on April 28, 2013:
Nature’s Elements did not dispute that the grass was dead when we went to the
house on April 28, 2013. They argued that this could occur in a very short
period of time and that they would have notified us if they had seen problems.
However, since the water was likely off for significant periods of time since late December 2012, there was a
lot of time for the grass to die. Knowing that we were relying on them to
maintain our yard in our absence, Nature’s Elements should have noticed that
the grass was getting drier and drier over time and should have notified us
that there was a problem. There must not have been much to mow at the visit
that Nature’s Elements states occurred on April 16, 2013.
It was not uncommon for Nature’s Elements
to not notice that there were problems with the sprinklers. On 6/20/12, we
notified them that there was a large dry patch in the middle of the backyard
that ended up being a sprinkler issue. They stated that the crew had not
noticed any problems.
6. Requests to address wet area in front: After
terminating the contract with Natures Elements, we found that the sprinkler in
the system in front had some major leaks that had not been identified by Nature’s
Elements. It is possible that these leaks date back to 1/6/12, 2/12/12 and
12/20/12, when I reported that there were wet and mossy areas in the front and
the sprinklers needed to be checked. While Nature’s Elements replied that they
would look into the matter, we never heard about the outcome.
7. Lack of information about fees and when
they would be charged: Nature’s Elements states that they informed us that
there would be charges for extra services. However, we never received a
schedule of fees and we usually only found out that we would be charged extra
when we received an invoice. In the attached e-mail dated March 12, 2013, we
asked for a schedule of fees and did not receive a reply. As you can see in
emails dated May 1, 2012 and March 5, 2013, there were several times we were
caught unaware that we would be charged extra fees.
8. Requests for pictures: After going to
the house in April 2012, we were very disappointed in the amount of overgrowth
as shown in the email dated 4/13/12. In a conversation with [redacted] in May 2012,
we asked [redacted] to send us pictures on a regular basis. This was reiterated in
e-mails dated 6/3/12, 6/20/12, and 11/3/12. We only ever received pictures on
the following dates: 11/13/12, 11/27/12, 12/26/12, and 3/6/13.
9. Mulch: Nature’s Elements indicates that an estimate
was provided to us on 2/21/13 for additional mulch at our request. As shown in
the email dated 2/22/12, we opted not to have Nature’s Elements do this work
due to the high cost. It is important to note that we had previously requested
that mulch be put in and it was never done. The emails from 4/15/12, 7/28/12, 8/5/12,
8/6/12, 8/17/12, and 9/1/12 discuss the requests and authorization to put in
new mulch. We never received a cost estimate for this work. On 9/4/12, I
informed Nature’s Elements that I did it myself since they had never completed
the task as requested.
10. Lack of response to e-mail requests: Natures Elements states that they respond to
email requests in 24 hours, there were many times when we did not receive a
response and had to repeatedly ask the same question. The discussions above
regarding requests for pictures and mulch are good examples of this. In
addition, our email of 3/12/13 asking for a schedule of fees never received a
reply.
11. Email more than once in a 24 hour period: Nature’s
Elements alleges that we would email about the same request more than once in a
24 hour period. As the attached emails show, the only time emails were sent
more than once in a 24 hour period was to reply to an email that Nature’s
Elements had sent us.
12. Surveys- Nature’s Elements states that they
did regular surveys and that we only responded to one survey. The survey we
received in October 2012 was the only survey we recall receiving during the
time we contracted with Nature’s Elements. In it, we clearly articulated our
displeasure with the lack of response to our e-mail requests. Nature’s Elements
stated that they began sending us pictures after that time. We only ever received
pictures on the following dates: 11/13/12, 11/27/12, 12/26/12, and 3/6/13.
As this document shows, Nature’s Elements was negligent in its duty to
maintain the landscaping at our property and did a poor job of communicating
back about the status of our requests. When we moved out of the house in July
2011, we made it clear that we wanted the yard to be maintained the same way it
was when we were living there and that we expected Nature’s Elements to take
the initiative to do this. The email dated 10/2/11 reiterates this expectation.
We expressed our displeasure with the level of service and communication we
were receiving on numerous occasions as discussed in this document.
We believe that Nature’s Elements should reimburse us for the cost of
refurbishing the grass and repairing the sprinklers because we specifically
requested that they turn the water back on in December 2012 and [redacted] agreed to
do so. He did not indicate at that time that he did not have access to the
timers, nor that adjusting them was not a service that they provided. As the
attached water bills show, there was a dramatic decrease in water usage from December
2012 to January 2013. There was also a dramatic decrease in water usage from January
2013 through April 2013 compared to the prior year. This shows that Nature’s
Elements was not ensuring that the irrigation systems were working properly,
even though it was part of the service promised to us.
Thank you for your assistance in helping us to resolve this dispute.
Sincerely,
[redacted] and [redacted]
v
Regards,
Business
Response:
Dear [redacted]
San Diego Ca 92104
In regards to the complaint you filled with the Revdex.com. It's unfortunate that you became
unsatisfied with your lawn service.
We have several pictures of your your yard and at the time of your complaint. On each
occasion (most recent 6/3/2013) we show you landscape green and thriving .
We are reaching out to offer a one time maintenance supply voucher to your new
landscape company to keep your yard looking its best. We do not agree with the
statements that were provided to the Revdex.com. We are doing this as a good faith effort to
move forward.
Please feel free to contact us or have your landscape company contact us directly so we
can instruct them on how to retrieve this voucher at a local Nursery.
This should help you keep that way
Sincerely
Natures Elements landscaping