Saguaro

This was my first time sending 90 stuffed envelopes which I had to pay $45 postage. The documents states specific categories for the home worker to select. I selected Group 1 application fee $99 plus tax $102.17. It is written this group grants you to make $500 weekly stuffing 99 envelopes. I had to contact my coach several times without receiving a response after 5 weeks. I did not know get a pay check as indicated on the contract within 2 weeks after I mailed my envelopes. The documents are misleading. Who can survive off a $10 check? My coach finally return my call after the second month. She attempted to seem surprise that I did not receive a check within 2 weeks as she said normally this is the time span. Afterwards, she said that I was suppose to get another check on July 19, 2016. This check has not arrived as of today and it is August 3, 2016. But, after I talked to my coach, she said that she must contact the company to know why I didn't receive a check. I never heard from her again for weeks until I left a message on her voice mail to inform her that I was contacting the Revdex.com. My coach call me via phone that next day claiming she was out of the office which was the reason why she didn't return my call. I read the documents and contracts clearly. You must look at the advertisement letter for yourself to read its content. It is a grabber, deceit to get people to pay application fee. I request my application fee of $102.17 plus postage $45 and $500 for mailing 99 stuffed envelopes. No one would continue $102.17 8 more times after getting paid $10.00 8 more times. My coach knows that she avoid returning my calls in a timely manner. Please read the letter that this company is advertising on their website. It is misleading and false to citizens.

To whom it may concern,The contract says nothing like that. The way the program  works has been explained to her over and over,she just will not listen.Here is verbatim what the agreement form states:"By agreeing to mail circulars for Saguaro, you are agreeing to pay all taxes incurred,and to...

follow our instructions and rules as stated. You must also understand that you will not receive a specific number of orders from your mailings. One day you may receive 50 orders, another day you may receive 10 orders,and there are days that you will not receive any orders. This isnormal. However,based on our experience,the home workers who succeed are usually the ones who follow  precise instructions and stick with the program".

IF YOU CALL THEIR NUMBER LISTED WITH YOUR COMPANY, Revdex.com, IT DOES NOT TAKE YOU TO THEIR BUSNINESS. IT TAKES YOU TO LIFE LINE ALERT, ADVERTISING FOR THE PRODUCT, LIFE LINE ALERT, IF YOU WANT IT, IF NOT, IT TAKES YOU TO A $100 GIFT CARD FOR WALMART, TARGET, ECT., FOR ONLY A SMALL CHARGE OF $1.96 PROCESSING FEE. THEN IT HANGS UP AFTER ALL THAT? WOW! WHAT HAPPEN TO THE COMPANY'S RESPONSE? IT HAS ONLY BEEN OPENED FOR ONE MONTH AND WILL BE TWO MONTHS ON THE 11TH OF THIS MONTH. IT HAS ANOTHER PHONE NUMBER WITH THEIR APPLICATION: ###-###-#### WHERE THEY TELL YOU THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME. THEY SUPPLY: LETTERS, ENVELOPES, CUSTOMER MAILING LABELS AND EVEN ALL POSTAGE COST IS REIMBURSABLE! WOW! EVERYTHING IS FREE, FREE! ALL YOU DO IS STUFF AND MAIL ALL LETTERS OUT AND GET PAID $10 FOR EACH ENVELOPE MAILED OUT. CHECKS MADE OUT ON TUESDAYS AND YOU GET YOUR CHECK BY FRIDAY. THEY HAVE FIVE GROUPS TO CHOOSE FROM:#1.(EARN $990) FEE IS $99 = YOU GET 99 LETTERS, 99 ENVELOPES, 99 CUSTOMER MAILING LABES.#2.(EARN $1,490) FEE IS $149. #3.(EARN $1,990) FEE IS $199. #4.(EARN 3,490) FEE IS $299. #5.(EARN $5,000) FEE IS $399. YOU GET YOUR START UP MONEY BACK AFTER NINE PAYCHECKS! WOW. TO GOOD TO BE TRUE, I THINK, DON'T KNOW YET?

Revdex.com4428 N. 12th St. Phoenix, AZ. 85014March 24,2016RE: Complaint ID# [redacted]Justin R[redacted]To whom it may concern,Absolute nonsense,every word of it. Let's go point by point.1. We have the coaching department number for all members, with their own personal coach.2. The email works...

just fine. I know because lm the one who answers them. You just need to put in the correct address.3. As for the address,if you sent it to City Hall that should be a big red flag that we did not receive it. Because you sent it to the wrong address!4. If for any reason this is a mistake on our part, we will not only refund your money but add$10 for the inconvenience. All you need to do is provide us with the canceled check or money order showing the WE deposited it. Correct address above. Make sure to use a delivery confirmation.Thank you,Roddy H[redacted]

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Business Bureau:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID [redacted], and find that this resolution would be satisfactory to me.  I will wait until for the business to perform this action and, if it does, will consider this complaint resolved.
Regards,
[redacted] I have not heard from the company or refund      since      Thanks [redacted]

Revdex.com:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID [redacted], and find that this resolution would be satisfactory to me.  I will wait until for the business to perform this action and, if it does, will consider this complaint resolved.
Regards,
[redacted]
I have not heard from the company or refund      since      Thanks [redacted]

My original complaint still stands. With regard to the suggestion that I should submit all materials received in order to get a refund is just ridiculous. In order to start the business I had to send all received letters off, for which I paid all postage. How can I return them????? To suggest that I should be a little more patient is another far- fetched idea.  People, like myself, are simply not in a position to wait for payment for months and at the same time continue to lay out more expenses without the slightest hope to see any return. I started in June and now we are in September and I have not had a single check for all my efforts. I am truly upset not only for myself but also for all the other people who trusted  these heartless 'business men and women'. I still hold on to all the evidence incase it should be needed to substantiate my case.Thank you for your attention.[redacted]

I don't understand, To contact a sales coach.
I've never received any letter from SAGUARO.
Who is Roddy H[redacted].
Saguaro, indicated, If you (me) If I'm Unhappy
thing are not right I can get a refund. No qestion
asked. So why is it now there telling me to get
in touch with a sales coach.

Sounds almost like a bird's nest on the ground! I contacted them about postage which they claim to pay but read all their info and go to their website Q&A page and that area is conveniently vague. I believe I got an honest answer--they do reimburse you for postage but only AFTER you have done NINE mailings for them provided you save all receipts to justify your postage expense Assuming the postage for each item mailed is $.47 (could be more or less), for 99 items mailed 9 times you are going to pay out of pocket $418.77 BEFORE they reimburse you--provided you save all receipts to justify your expense. Also read carefully their info on the $10 they pay for each item mailed. You will not receive $990 for mailing 99 items. You will (supposedly) receive $10 for each of the 99 items that are returned to them in response to the offer in the mailing and you have no way of knowing how many of those are actually returned to them for the product offered so you have to trust them on that. Think about how many solicitations you receive that you do not return. I am still undecided if I want to "invest" in their offer.

I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID [redacted], and find that this resolution would be satisfactory to me.  I will wait until for the business to perform this action and, if it does, will consider this complaint resolved.

Regards,

I have not heard from the company or refund      since      Thanks [redacted]

Revdex.com4428 N. 12th St. Phoenix, AZ. 85014March 24,2016RE: Complaint ID# [redacted]Justin R[redacted]To whom it may concern,Absolute nonsense,every word of it. Let's go point by point.1. We have the coaching department number for...

all members, with their own personal coach.2. The email works just fine. I know because lm the one who answers them. You just need to put in the correct address.3. As for the address,if you sent it to City Hall that should be a big red flag that we did not receive it. Because you sent it to the wrong address!4. If for any reason this is a mistake on our part, we will not only refund your money but add$10 for the inconvenience. All you need to do is provide us with the canceled check or money order showing the WE deposited it. Correct address above. Make sure to use a delivery confirmation.Thank you,Roddy H[redacted]

My original complaint still stands. With regard to the suggestion that I should submit all materials received in order to get a refund is just ridiculous. In order to start the business I had to send all received letters off, for which I paid all postage. How can I return them????? To suggest that I should be a little more patient is another far- fetched idea.  People, like myself, are simply not in a position to wait for payment for months and at the same time continue to lay out more expenses without the slightest hope to see any return. I started in June and now we are in September and I have not had a single check for all my efforts. I am truly upset not only for myself but also for all the other people who trusted  these heartless 'business men and women'. I still hold on to all the evidence incase it should be needed to substantiate my case.
Thank you for your attention.
[redacted]

IF YOU CALL THEIR NUMBER LISTED WITH YOUR COMPANY, Revdex.com, IT DOES NOT TAKE YOU TO THEIR BUSNINESS. IT TAKES YOU TO LIFE LINE ALERT, ADVERTISING FOR THE PRODUCT, LIFE LINE ALERT, IF YOU WANT IT, IF NOT, IT TAKES YOU TO A $100 GIFT CARD FOR WALMART, TARGET, ECT., FOR ONLY A SMALL CHARGE OF $1.96 PROCESSING FEE. THEN IT HANGS UP AFTER ALL THAT? WOW! WHAT HAPPEN TO THE COMPANY'S RESPONSE? IT HAS ONLY BEEN OPENED FOR ONE MONTH AND WILL BE TWO MONTHS ON THE 11TH OF THIS MONTH. IT HAS ANOTHER PHONE NUMBER WITH THEIR APPLICATION: ###-###-#### WHERE THEY TELL YOU THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME. THEY SUPPLY: LETTERS, ENVELOPES, CUSTOMER MAILING LABELS AND EVEN ALL POSTAGE COST IS REIMBURSABLE! WOW! EVERYTHING IS FREE, FREE! ALL YOU DO IS STUFF AND MAIL ALL LETTERS OUT AND GET PAID $10 FOR EACH ENVELOPE MAILED OUT. CHECKS MADE OUT ON TUESDAYS AND YOU GET YOUR CHECK BY FRIDAY. THEY HAVE FIVE GROUPS TO CHOOSE FROM:#1.(EARN $990) FEE IS $99 = YOU GET 99 LETTERS, 99 ENVELOPES, 99 CUSTOMER MAILING LABES.#2.(EARN $1,490) FEE IS $149. #3.(EARN $1,990) FEE IS $199. #4.(EARN 3,490) FEE IS $299. #5.(EARN $5,000) FEE IS $399. YOU GET YOUR START UP MONEY BACK AFTER NINE PAYCHECKS! WOW. TO GOOD TO BE TRUE, I THINK, DON'T KNOW YET?

This was my first time sending 90 stuffed envelopes which I had to pay $45 postage. The documents states specific categories for the home worker to select. I selected Group 1 application fee $99 plus tax $102.17. It is written this group grants you to make $500 weekly stuffing 99 envelopes. I had to contact my coach several times without receiving a response after 5 weeks. I did not know get a pay check as indicated on the contract within 2 weeks after I mailed my envelopes. The documents are misleading. Who can survive off a $10 check? My coach finally return my call after the second month. She attempted to seem surprise that I did not receive a check within 2 weeks as she said normally this is the time span. Afterwards, she said that I was suppose to get another check on July 19, 2016. This check has not arrived as of today and it is August 3, 2016. But, after I talked to my coach, she said that she must contact the company to know why I didn't receive a check. I never heard from her again for weeks until I left a message on her voice mail to inform her that I was contacting the Revdex.com. My coach call me via phone that next day claiming she was out of the office which was the reason why she didn't return my call. I read the documents and contracts clearly. You must look at the advertisement letter for yourself to read its content. It is a grabber, deceit to get people to pay application fee. I request my application fee of $102.17 plus postage $45 and $500 for mailing 99 stuffed envelopes. No one would continue $102.17 8 more times after getting paid $10.00 8 more times. My coach knows that she avoid returning my calls in a timely manner. Please read the letter that this company is advertising on their website. It is misleading and false to citizens.

We received a check from Mrs. [redacted] and sent her package after the 10 day holding period. As she stated, it took her 3 weeks to complete the mailings. We understand her frustration but ask for her patience with this process. This program can be slow to start, but we are now receiving orders and she...

should expect commissions soon. She is welcome to contact our customer service department for further assistance. If she would like a refund; she must return all materials in usable condition and we will refund her money less the shipping charge.

To whom it may concern,The contract says nothing like that. The way the program  works has been explained to her over and over,she just will not listen.Here is verbatim what the agreement form states:"By agreeing to mail circulars for Saguaro, you are agreeing to pay all...

taxes incurred,and to follow our instructions and rules as stated. You must also understand that you will not receive a specific number of orders from your mailings. One day you may receive 50 orders, another day you may receive 10 orders,and there are days that you will not receive any orders. This isnormal. However,based on our experience,the home workers who succeed are usually the ones who follow  precise instructions and stick with the program".

4428 N. 12th St. Phoenix,AZ. 85014May 12,2016RE: Complaint 10# [redacted]To whom it may concern,That is not what she was told. Please see the emails to help refresh her memory. As you can clearly see,she was never told that. Shipping and the cost of...

names is NEVER refundable.

I got this letter three times from them, lucky I didn't respond to any of them I thought it was a scam, always check with the Revdex.com first before you give your money away...

To whom it may concern,Every single word of this letter is nonsense,not one part is true.First off,here is the USPS delivery confirmation number showing that it was delivered to her home on January 22, 2016. I'm sure she just forgot she received it. Hopefully this...

refreshes her bad memory.As for the email and phone number,they both work just fine,check for yourself. It is a shame this type of ridiculous complaint can put a bad mark on our good reputation.Thank you,[redacted]