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Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling

4849 Evanswood Dr, Columbus, Ohio, United States, 43229-6206

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I regret my encounter with Atlas Butler including buying their pricey extended service contract. But you do learn from your mistakes. So in the future I will not be so easily misguided by this smarmy crew.

Technician Mica J talked me into a tankless hot water heater and I agreed to have it installed yesterday by Trevor W. This evening I found it leaked all over the basement. Called three hours ago, no response yet and it is leaking fast. I've never had a problem with a hot water heater for 28 years in this home until I let Atlas Butler plumbing in this week.

On March 24, 2020 I had Atlas Butler come to my home for furnace issues. They told me I needed a mother board for my furnace. When the new board was installed they then were unable to get the furnace to work. I had to show them where the electric box was located and another technician was called in and said I needed a blower for *** more. Before that there was no problems with the blower or electrical problems. The technician said that I could get a new furnace for *** verses $*** for the blower. The first technician said I had to pay for the board even though it did not fix the problem. Later that night Mike came in and told me the estimated cost would be *** and he would have to talk to his boss about taking *** off for the board and I was not provided an invoice. On the invoice I was charged *** for installation which made the cost ***. He then deducted *** because I was a club member which took the cost down to $***. I called Atlas Butler back on March 31, 2020 and requested an invoice. I asked how much I would be financing and I was told *** And that was the $975 deducted from the cost. When I received my bill the *** was not deducted and when I called Mike he said that the amount I had to finance was $*** and the *** was not deducted. I did not receive an invoice from Mike until April 1, 2029. I feel that I was way overcharged and I would like a refund for the

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Apr 27, 2020

Total cost was $5705.00. Client received two separate discounts of $978.00 and $922.00 for the original cost of part and the club member discount leaving a total of $3805.00 which is what was financed. Please see attached invoice.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Apr 27, 2020

Total cost was ***. Client received two separate discounts of *** and *** for the original cost of part and the club member discount leaving a total of *** which is what was financed. Please see attached invoice.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • May 11, 2020

A Check for *** is being processed and will be mailed to clients home address.

Atlas Butler Invoice ***4849 Evanswood Dr, Invoice Date 3/25/2020Columbus, OH 43229 Completed Date 3/25/2020Technicians Phillip ESam BCustomer POBilling Address Job Address***
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***Description of WorkS 80 % 44 k f utility roomTask # Description Quantity Your Price Your TotalPKG-117 Standard GF / 80% / 44K BTU / 3 Ton Blower / 14.25" Width 1.00 $5,705.00 $5,705.00DiscountREP Applicable service repair discount 1.00 $***DiscountCLUB Your Club's membership discount 1.00 ***Standard Furnace Standard Furnace 1.00 ***

Atlas Butler ***Paid On Type Memo Amount3/30/2020 Synchrony Financing ***Member Savings $0.00Sub-Total ***Tax $0.00Total Due ***Payment ***Balance Due $0.00The above price (***) and specifications of this quotation are satisfactory and are hereby accepted. All work to be performedunder same terms and conditions, unless otherwise stipulated.3/25/2020The above price (***) and specifications of this quotation are satisfactory and are hereby accepted. All work to be performedunder same terms and conditions, unless otherwise stipulated.3/25/2020

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • May 11, 2020

A Check for $975 is being processed and will be mailed to clients home address.

Customer Response • May 12, 2020

I reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find the resolution is satisfactory to me.

Regards

Customer Response • May 12, 2020

Revdex.com:

I reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find the resolution is satisfactory to me.

Regards

I had a Furnace and Air Conditioning unit installed last May and they sold me a service contract. I called in September to cancel the service since I felt that I did not need this any longer. They mentioned that I could not cancel since it was part of the installation agreement. If I cancelled, I would have to pay them $500 so I inquired how long I had to keep this service contract. They mentioned that I had to keep it till February 2020 and at that time, they would cancel it. I received a call on March 18th that they wanted to come out to do an inspection as part of the service agreement. They mentioned at this time that it was part of the service contract and nothing else so I scheduled this. They came out today and said that everything looked good and I then called the company to make sure that my service contract was cancelled. They said that I had to stay with the service contract and pay for April and possibly May as I agreed for them to come out and check their installation that they did last year.
If I did not pay this, I would owe $400 for them coming out. I was really taken back at this type of Business trap and was very deceived. The representative that I spoke to today was very uncooperative and said that they had my voice as agreeing to the payment until May. I told her that it was agreed that the service contract would be cancelled in February of this year and there was nothing discussed at extending this by them coming out to look at the furnace/air conditioner. She was very rude and should not be representing the company

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Mar 19, 2020

Client was told on 7/31/19 that the agreement ran until may and was a 12 month agreement. Client even repeated it back multiple times. It was never discussed that plan would be canceled in February. He was told that there would be a charge to cancel due to discounts he received, client stated he would keep for the remainder of the contract but would not renew. Client paid past due balance on account and the call ended. The next call was to schedule his annual maintenance on 9/3/2019, again no mention of agreement canceling in February.

Customer Response • Mar 19, 2020

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because: I did not agree to pay this until May as the rep mentioned on 7/31/19 that the contract would be cancelled in February. There was no annual maintenance done on 9/3/2019 as they said it was not necessary and the first that they came out was today 3/19/2020. There was no prior commitment to continue until May. In fact, the rep today mentioned that since I had the maintenance check today, that it would now be continued until May. Total entrapment by Atlas Butler. I am not happy by their conniving activities and will never recommend them to anyone. Be AWARE!

Regards

Atlas Buttler Heating and Cooling . A TOTAL RIP-OFF
Their $89.00 service call was acceptable and they came out the same day.
After researching the part replaced, it was the blower motor run capacitor and could be bought direct from *** for $29.00. Atlas Buttler charged me $299.00 for the part. Markup of 967.857%. Profit of $277.00. The labor needed was the removal of 5 screws, unplug the old part, plugin the new part and replace 5 screws. Total of about 10 minutes.
I was also told that when he plugged the new part in I would be charged for it whether it fixed it or not. When I called to complain I was curtly told their prices are what they are and nothing could be done.??

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Feb 20, 2020

Atlas Butler has set pricing on all our repairs. This is to
protect the consumer form price gouging. Ig the repair takes 10 hours or 30
minutes, the price will be the exact same. Parts are available online for
cheap, but they do not come with a warranty, or a qualified and certified technician
to install it. We did provide the client with the desired repair and the system
worked as it should upon the technicians departure.

Customer Response • Feb 29, 2020

I am rejecting this response because: Atlas Butler did not address my specific complaint. 1. The extreme markup of the part, to use their term, (price Gouging). 2. Why would they charge me for a part that might not fix the problem. The technician wouldn't plug in the new part until I gambled on a $299.00 part that might not fix the problem. The part I researched was an OEM part with a warranty commonly available. What was the $89.00 service call for? Their answer just dances around my complaint. My expectation is fix the problem, charge me for the part with a reasonable markup. I would also like an invoice. when I called them for service they said they needed my email so they could send an invoice.

Regards

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Mar 02, 2020

1.The part comes with a manufacturers warranty as well as the workmanship warranty (which cannot be purchased online with OEM part or otherwise) in the event of an installation error caused by our technician.

2. I don’t see this documented anywhere. The service notes (which were emailed to you on 3/2/20 at 3:30pm) stated what the issue was, what our recommendations were, and what was actually done. “Found blower cap failed. Recommended replacing motor with cap, client declined. Replaced cap only for $388. Thank you!”

3. The $89 fee was for the diagnostic of the system which was completed.

I reiterate that the requested services were completed and
the system was in proper working order upon our departure. Or prices are
uniform across the board for this level of repair.

Customer Response • Mar 06, 2020

I am rejecting this response because: your statement that you recommended blower motor replacement is a lie. *** OEM parts are available.***x start capacitor 7.5 mfd/370v *** never used a *** branded capacitor. They used several different vendors. Your technician failed to tell you that he didn't install the correct part. He told me that he didn't have the right part but this bigger one will work. WILL THIS DAMAGE OR LESSON THE LIFE OF THE BLOWER MOTOR.

You have not addressed the issue of potentially charging for a part that might not work. My original resolution stands.

Regards

Called for service. They came and "fixed" problem. Payment in full was rendered at that time. Day or two later problem returned, so I contacted the company to return. Guy came and said he was unable to fix because unit had a gate around it that his hands could not fit through. He started sawing the gate without my permission and I ran out and told him to stop because the gate belongs to the property owners and he can not saw it down. I signed a form that he was here but there was a 0. balance. I called another company to get problem fixed. Then. 2 or 3 months later, Atlas started sending me a bill for him coming a second time. I told her he damaged my property and never fixed issue. I never signed or agreed to pay for his return. She informed me that he is no longer with company but I am still responsible for bill and have since sent to collections. I have bill from other company showing how they had to come service the unit that Atlas did not fix. Also have photos of where he sawed the gate

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Feb 21, 2020

Amount was billed in error. Has since been removed from collections. We apologize for the error.

Customer Response • Mar 02, 2020

I am satisfied with the resolution

Apologies for the length of this complaint; however, I felt it important to provide a detailed account in order to substantiate my complaint and request for resolution.

Background: After a great deal of rigmarole regarding a promise made to me on Nov. 26, 2019, by Atlas Butler HVAC technician Nathan S and several subsequent appointment requests on my part beginning No. 25, 2019, Ms. Debra S, Client Service Representative, finally—on Jan.14, 2020—scheduled me for furnace cleaning and inspection to be performed on Jan. 20, 2020. (The Nov. 6 promise and resulting issue is indirectly related to this complaint. I’ve not included those details here due to this already lengthy complaint but am happy to provide them, should they be requested.)

For the Jan. 20 appointment, I requested—and was promised—technician Nathan S as he’d been here on Nov. 25, and I’d been very happy with his professionalism, willingness to provide information, and friendliness. Ms. S offered me an appointment for Jan. 16 but told me Nathan wouldn’t be available until Jan. 20. So, in order to have Nathan, I waited the additional 4 days and scheduled for Jan. 20.

On January 20, 2020, Mr. Rudra N—not Nathan—arrived at my house to do the work. I was unhappy (and later emailed Ms. S to say so) but assumed Mr. N was equally qualified, so had him go ahead and do the work.

Approximately. 1 - 1.25 hrs. later, after Mr. N had already (supposedly) inspected/cleaned the furnace (which Ms. S had told me, on Dec. 5, would take 1.5 - 2 hrs.), he came upstairs and told me I needed a new furnace, and that it should be replaced immediately. (Note that Mr. N had gone ahead and allegedly performed the $150 service—on a furnace that ostensibly needed immediate replacement—before informing me about the need for replacement. He failed to ask whether I still wanted him to clean it.) Mr. N repeatedly emphasized that the replacement should be made ASAP because (1) the heat chamber had cracks and (2) carbon monoxide was leaking from those cracks, (2) it is impossible to repair or replace a heat exchanger; the entire furnace must be replaced.

Mr. N offered no evidence of these claims, so I asked numerous questions, including whether the CO was an imminent danger, to which he replied no. He also told me that a heat exchanger cannot be repaired or replaced. He strongly emphasized only that I needed to replace the furnace right away and mentioned nothing about any other problems with the furnace.

He then returned to the furnace for approx. 5-10 minutes to finish his work. When he came back upstairs—just before leaving—he suddenly told me the motor was “very hot” and that it was ready to go out “any day.” Again, I asked numerous questions, including whether the motor was a fire hazard, to which he replied no. However, he continually repeated that I should replace the furnace immediately. I paid the $150 fee, and Mr. N left.

It is my practice to carefully research and obtain several estimates before spending large amounts of money on goods or services. So, I began doing that on Mr. N’s departure. Approximately 2 hrs. into my research, I became chilly and went to turn up the thermostat. I discovered that it had already been turned up, but the room temperature reading was well below the setting. I checked the register; there was a slight warmth emanating from it (due to heat rise, I presume), but the fan was blowing no warm air out. I double-checked the thermostat, fan, and basement power switch to be sure I wasn’t overlooking something. I was not.

I called Atlas Butler immediately; they said someone would be out in a short while. It was Mr. N who came. Before heading to the basement, he stated that the problem was likely an internal switch—to which an owner/customer has no access—that had tripped because the furnace was in such bad shape. After looking at the furnace, he returned and stated that it was indeed the internal switch, he’d flipped it back, and there was no telling when it might flip again due to the furnace condition. I thought it quite odd that this switch had never—in 28 years—tripped, yet it had reportedly done so within 2 hrs. of Mr. N’s departure.

Mr. N AGAIN urged me to replace the furnace immediately. When I told him I needed to research/get estimates and that it would likely be at least 2 weeks before replacement, his face visibly fell. When I mentioned that I needed to decide what type of air filter I wanted, he replied, “You’re thinking too much.” He handed me an Atlas Butler furnace pamphlet and told me exactly which of the 2 or 3 advertised furnaces I should buy. I stated that I would continue researching, and if Atlas Butler’s estimate was comparable to the others, I might indeed choose them for the replacement. Just before leaving, Mr. N, in what sounded like a tone of genuine concern, stated, “I want you to get that new furnace right away.”

While further researching, I ran across a review in which a customer stated that a tech (company unknown) had “sabotaged” her furnace so she would buy a new one. I mentally scoffed, thinking, “How would she know?” However, after the very odd “coincidence” of my furnace going out within 2 hrs. of Mr. N’s leaving, it did cause me to wonder.

For estimates, a friend recommended C & Son Heating and Cooling very highly; their reviews were excellent, so I chose them for my first estimate. Mr. Scott C, the owner, came to give me that estimate on Jan. 24. I mentioned a tech having told me the heat chamber was cracked, CO was leaking, the very hot motor was about to fail, and the odd “coincidence” of the furnace failing immediately after it was supposedly inspected and cleaned. Being somewhat suspicious by this time, I decided (of my own volition) to pay Mr. C for another inspection ($115) before having him give me an estimate.

He inspected the furnace, performed a test for CO, and later inspected the chimney outdoors. When he finished, Mr. C came upstairs and stated, “You’re fine.” He told me that
(1) there is no such thing as an internal switch that flips when a problem occurs,
(2) there were no cracks in the heat chamber,
(3) there was no CO leak,
(4) the motor “running hot” was no different than any other motor that is working hard, and
(5) I did NOT need a new furnace.

Moreover, when I asked if it looked clean, he stated, (6) “It looked like no one had been in there.” (He also repeated that statement later in writing, which I can produce.) He did show me that rust had begun to accumulate on the flue pipes (never mentioned by Mr. N), which should be replaced at some point, but not necessarily immediately. He also went outdoors to inspect the chimney from the ground.

I was astonished! I might have expected deception from a fly-by-night company, but not a longtime, big-name company such as Atlas Butler. Truly incredulous, I asked more questions of Mr. C, including what I now suspected: Whether techs receive bonuses if a customer purchases a furnace based on a tech’s recommendation.“That’s how they sell furnaces,” Mr. C replied. I also learned that technicians often recommend replacing a furnace when no such replacement is needed.

In fact, in further after-the-fact research, I learned from NUMEROUS websites that Mr. N’s exact claims are a common scam tactic. For instance, an article titled “Beware of These HVAC Scams” states “Be extra vigilant when a technician tells you that your heating unit is leaking gas and carbon monoxide and recommends replacement right away. The contractor should be able to show some proofs such as a crack on the unit.” (https://nappsac.com/blog/beware-hvac-scams/) And, verifying Mr. C’s statement, another source states “In most cases where a technician has deemed a heat exchanger “cracked and unable to be replaced,” only about 10% of them are true. The rest usually turn out to be unethical tactics to sell new furnaces. (https://www.americasbestcomfort.com/blog/heating/crackedheatexchangerfraud/)

Regarding simply replacing the heat chamber, though most articles state that replacing an entire furnace MAY make more financial sense a heat exchanger CAN be replaced: “The best way to repair a cracked heat exchanger is to remove it and put in a new one.” (https://www.trustcolliers.com/blog/heating-service/furnace-cracked-heat-exchang... />
Furthermore, despite Mr. N’s assurance that the small amount of CO he claimed was leaking was not harmful, another article states “Your furnace can develop a crack in its heat exchanger or flue pipes, causing a CO leak into your home’s air. If a CO leak were to develop from your furnace, you and your family could quickly be in danger.” (https://6andfix.com/the-dangers-of-carbon-monoxide-leaks-from-a-furnace/) Apparently, Mr. N either engages in deception or knows nothing about CO and is dangerously unqualified for this work.

Regardless of whether such deception is common practice, Mr. N clearly fabricated 6 claims: (1) The heat chamber was cracked, (2) CO was leaking, (3) it is not possible to repair or replace just a heat exchanger (4) the motor was about to fail, (5) the furnace NEEDED to be replaced, and (6) it NEEDED to be replaced immediately. I also suspect, based on Mr. C’s “It looked like no one had been in there,” comment that Mr. N may neither have inspected nor cleaned the furnace at all.

Whether this kind of deception is encouraged by Atlas Butler in general or whether Mr. N is simply one dishonest technician among numerous reputable Atlas Butler techs (such as Nathan S seemed to be), I do not know. However, even if the latter is the case, Atlas Butler bears responsibility in that they failed to send Nathan S, whom I requested and had been promised, and hired/sent a dishonest and/or unqualified technician instead.

In total, I have paid $354 to find out that not a thing is wrong with my furnace, which is still, according to Mr. C, in need of cleaning:

11/06/19: $89.00 to Atlas Butler (5-min. visit to be told what I needed was an electrician, not an HVAC tech)
01/20/20: $150.00 to Atlas Butler (alleged cleaning and inspection)
01/24/20: $115 to C & Son
TOTAL: $354

Apparently, of that $354, the ONLY service ACTUALLY PERFORMED on my furnace was Mr. C’s legitimate charge of $115.

While Atlas Butler’s $89 charge is far from equitable for 5 min. and no service performed, I do understand that that’s simply how Atlas Butler operates…it’s just the customer’s tough luck.

That leaves $150, for which I received Mr. N outrageous lies and, apparently, nothing else. Therefore, I wish to have my $150 refunded. Should Atlas Butler or the Revdex.com request a third inspection to validate Mr. C’s report, I welcome that opportunity, at Atlas Butler’s expense.

I did not take this complaint directly to Atlas Butler before submitting it here, as a potential argument would have further compounded the situation. Thus, I have chosen to bring it directly to a neutral third party. My hope is that this matter will be quickly resolved and that no further action will be necessary. Thank you.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Feb 11, 2020

Under normal circumstances Atlas Butler would dispatch a service manager to the home to review the work of the accused technician to validate the claim. However, since another company has already touched the furnace we will give client the benefit of the doubt and refund $150.

Customer Response • Feb 11, 2020

Revdex.com:

I reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find the resolution is satisfactory to me.

Regards

Our heater stopped working this morning. I called Atlas Butler for service. A technician came to review and said I had a crack in my system. He said not to use it because of a potential for carbon monoxide poisoning. I had another company come and review. The gentleman cleaned the flame sensor and tested for carbon monoxide with an actual detector. The output was at a normal level. Atlas Butler turned off heat to our house based on potential that didn't exist. They was a scam, this is not a review. They wanted me to buy a new furnance, not even temporarily what we had on a cold day to be warm. I called the business to report this and asked for a manager, and they hung up on me.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Jan 30, 2020

Atlas Butler will refund the $89 diagnostic fee.

Customer Response • Jan 30, 2020

Revdex.com:

I reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find the resolution is satisfactory to me. I will look forward to the refund actually processing and if so will consider this matter closed.

Regards

We had Atlas Butler come to our home to provide an estimate for replacement of our heat pump and air conditioner early last Spring. We did not select them, yet they are billing us for $56.05. This was a free estimate, not a service call, so we have no idea what this charge is for. We have left multiple messages and even sent a letter by mail asking for an explanation. A lady named Rachel sent us an email just after the estimate and we’ve tried reaching out to her with no response. We’re not paying for something we never received.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Jan 21, 2020

Client signed up for one our maintenance agreements on 5/24/19 which entitled her to a diagnostic fee waiver in the event of a service call. Client received that service call the same day and of course the fee of $89 was waived. Client canceled membership shortly after and we ask for any received discounts to be paid back if membership is canceled before one year. The client paid us $32.95 to start the membership, so the $56.05 balance is the difference of the $89 fee that was waived and the $32.95 that was already paid to us. A voicemail explaining this situation was left on 7/16/19.

Customer Response • Jan 21, 2020

At no time was this explained to us. In fact we were never informed of any balance owed or given any explanation as to what the charge stemmed from. Why weren’t our phone calls returned or a response to our letter? There was never any contract signed for said membership either.

Regards

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Jan 22, 2020

Atlas Butler has not received any phone calls or letters on this account. Every phone call that comes into our building is recorded and stored on our server. We have only had contact with the client on 5/24/19 and it was multiple times. The last account activity was on 7/16 which is when we left a voicemail explaining the charge to the client. In addition, an invoice was sent to the client on 6/6/19 via USPS explaining the charge. We have not received any correspondence from this outside the initial conversations. The initial phone call consisted of the client being told about the membership to which she replied “I saw that online… How much is it per month?” Our terms and conditions are located on our website along with the memberships. I am attaching the outstanding balance invoice as well as the invoice from the service visit on 5/24/19.

Customer Response • Jan 24, 2020

I am rejecting this response because: We tried contacting Atlas Butler multiple times. We sent a letter and returned invoices with a question as to what the charge was. It was NEVER explained to us that we would be responsible for the consultation to give us an estimate. What kind of company charges for estimates? They didn’t do anything! In fact their representative sat at our kitchen table and tried to pressure us into purchasing a $15,000 heat pump and AC from him. He was very upset that we turned him down. So no, we don’t feel we are responsible for the $56.05 and are prepared to take our complaint to the *** office.

Regards

Posting a bad review for Atlas Butler is simply not enough, this company should be charged for fraudulent diagnosis and service. As part of my yearly maintenance service contract with Atlas Butler I had a technician at my home this morning to service our furnace. Having spent some time in our attic he came downstairs and told me that he needed to red tag my furnace, he said that it had cracks that were leaking CO and it needed to be shut down. He said that my options were to replace the part which was cracked, approx $3,000 (part & installation) or entire replacement of furnace. He wanted me to sign a form stating that I had acknowledged his diagnosis of a furnace that was dangerous and should not be used. He hadn’t filled in any information on this form, so was asking me to sign a diagnostic form minus any of his written details. When I questioned his diagnosis he said he had pictures, but then fumbled to find photos in his phone, which I found strange given that he supposedly had just taken photos. He also failed to give me any information on the CO levels he found; were the levels high or low, etc.. Coincidentally I had heard the same story from a friend of mine who had her furnace red tagged and had to replace her system with Atlas Butler, remembering her story was also giving me pause. Conveniently this technician could have another Atlas Butler person out to give a quote on the furnace replacement within a two hour window. In the meantime I called *** Plumbing & Heating for a second opinion. A professional technician from *** Plumbing & Heating carried out a diagnostic on the furnace, he tested for CO levels and looked for the reported cracks. The technician from *** Plumbing & Heating said that there was nothing wrong with our furnace, there was no CO leak or cracks. He took the red tag off our furnace & compiled a complete report including pictures. Atlas Butler should not be given the opportunity to continue to scam home owners in our community.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Feb 19, 2020

Upon viewing the service summary for the address, it has been determined that this client did in fact have an unsafe furnace unit. There are multiple pictures of the cracked heat exchanger that we will be happy to share with client. The form that was presented is known as an "unsafe appliance" form which details that our company inspected the furnace and explained why it was unsafe. Any company will have such a form for liability reasons.

Customer Response • Feb 26, 2020

I have read the response from Atlas Butler, the photographs that they make reference to cannot be photographs of my furnish. This continued claim of theirs is so unprofessional that it cannot be left without further recourse. The company who kindly came and inspected our furnish on the same day as Atlas Butler also took photographs and documented that the furnish was in perfect working order with NO cracks. Companies like Atlas Butler who refuse to take responsibility for shoddy technicians and bad business practices should not be able to continue to do business in our neighborhoods. I am happy to provide actual photographs of our furnish to any interested party!!

I found out today that, as Comfort Club members, they were not actually performing maintenance services on our HVAC system. Our furnace, despite being "maintenanced" regularly, had not been cleaned in YEARS! It stopped working today because the flame sensor was FILTHY and the burners were rusted. A wonderful local company (not Atlas Butler) was able to come out and perform the maintenance and told me I really needed to get regular maintenance done and not let it go for years. That's when I told him Atlas Buter was SUPPOSEDLY doing that for us and he was shocked. I asked the guy from the local company if he thought our furnace would need replaced soon as Atlas Butler has been harassing me for several years about replacing it stating it isn't doing well and could go out any time. Turns out it's in GREAT shape and we should have no problem getting another 5-10 years out of it. I immediately called Atlas Butler to cancel our Comfort Club membership. The girl on the phone was more than happy to cancel, but told me that I would still have to pay out the remainder of my contract. I asked why I should have to pay Atlas Butler when they aren't holding up their end of the contract and she got nasty with me. Apparently I have to hold up my end of the contract or be sent to collections (yes, she did threaten this) but Atlas Butler can lie in their documentation and not actually perform any service to my HVAC system.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Jan 03, 2020

Atlas Butler has indeed performed maintenance on this clients furnace annually for the past few years and I am uploading the invoices detailing those visits. The client has had dirty igniters in the past and has been urged to replace furnace unit do to age and cost of repairs The client opted to forgo repairs which is the reason the flame sensor became dirty again so quickly. We have decided to cancel the clients membership with no further charges.

Customer Response • Jan 03, 2020

Revdex.com:I reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find the resolution is satisfactory to me. However, several other companies disagree with your assessment of the furnace. You have been telling me for years to replace it but it should last for at least another 5 years according to several area experts. Perhaps if you didn't give your employees commission on selling a furnace they wouldn't do such a crap job cleaning them (or not clean at all) to force you into buying something you don't need to line their pockets.

Regards

I am being charged for an annual billing membership where the terms and conditions say the monthly fee on the annual membership pays for the "free" services I received. I canceled my membership and the company billed me for the remaining annual membership to cover the portion of the "free" services.

I talked with Atlas Butler Heating and Air about the situation. They went back and listened to the phone call where I was sold the annual membership. The company admitted that they did not provide any of the fine print disclosures about terminating the policy. She then admitted that I should have been told about the fine details of the cost structure and she apologized for not doing that.

I was not told of the cancellation policy and Atlas Butler admitted to not providing me this information but yet I am still being charged.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Jan 03, 2020

Although the client didn’t receive a copy of our terms and agreements, the client was explained the cancellation policy via phone on 11/21 and 12/9. In addition to this, they were directed to the website where this information is available. No refund can be given, amount billed was to offset discounts received.

Customer Response • Jan 03, 2020

Complaint: ***I am rejecting this response because: You just admitted that you did not share the disclosure with me and then penalize me for that. Yes, you explained the terms to me six months after we entered into the agreement.

Your employee admitted to me that they failed to give me the details at the inception of the agreement.

Regards

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Jan 06, 2020

The client was made aware of our cancellation policy twice, giving them ample time to make an informed decision. They chose to cancel membership as opposed to keeping until it expired. No refund will be given as client received quite a few discounts on services we provided.

I am outraged by what happened. Our furnace was out. The tech from Atlas Nathan S came and said it is not fixable and NO tech will fix it because it is not safe. A fuse and or a transformer was out. He showed us the inside of what he claims to be an issue with some water and corrosion and is pushing a replacement heat exchange or what he recommended a new furnace all together. I do have a home warranty, I called them and they had someone come out. I had them look at it, and they fixed it right on the spot. Replaced the fuse, found why it was blown and fixed that, and the water was because of a clogged drain pipe which he cleaned. IT WAS A SIMPLE FIX!!! How could anyone sleep at night knowingly letting people have no heat in DECEMBER!!!! I understand if he had concerns....the other tech had concerns, and my wife and I will consider them. But, not just simply replacing a fuse to allow a home to be heated just to sell us something is shameful. I never report businesses or people because we all have to support our families but this is horrible to do to people. I haven't been this mad about a experience with a person representing a company ever. I don't have children yet (which he asked which is why he might have did what he did) but if I did and he did that knowing what I know now we would have a serious issue.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Feb 20, 2020

Our technician found a crack in the heat exchange. When a crack is located, we take a picture and red tag the furnace for liability reasons. We will not perform any service on the system until the heat exchange is either replaced or repaired. We will not perform temporary fixes on a unit with a bad heat exchange because it isn't safe.

We requested Atlas Butler to perform the furnace tune-up that is part of our service plan. At the end of the service, we were told they had to shut off the gas to our furnace and it was tagged unsafe due to company policy. We were told that even though the levels read 0ppm, our heat exchanger was leaking and it could leak carbon monoxide. They explained our problem was the secondary heat exchanger and a noisy motor. We were set up for a salesperson to give us a quote for a new furnace as soon as we could meet. We obtained a second opinion from another heating company that confirmed our furnace was not broken, needed no repair, and was not leaking anything. They explained the secondary heat exchanger leaks water instead of carbon monoxide if it was leaking, but there was no water leaking. Also, the noisy motor just needed a bolt tightened. We are concerned with this predatory sales practice trying to take advantage of families and having paid for a monthly service plan when this was the type of service we received.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Jan 17, 2020

Atlas Butler will refund $32.95 to clients credit card as requested.

Customer Response • Jan 21, 2020

I reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find the resolution is satisfactory to me. I hope this business changes its practices in the future and does not try to coerce customers into high cost sales to replace their HVAC systems. I am still shocked that I was told it was company policy to shut off the gas to try to force me into buying a completely new system.

Regards

Our Deluxe Club Membership with Atlas Butler runs through 10/31 of a given year. On October 2, 2019, one of Atlas Butler's techs came out to do our annual Fall inspection. At the conclusion of the inspection, the tech said in his report that he saw that the "secondary heat exchanger is burned from inside to outside...Told customer it's not safe to operate without fixing." A written estimate provided at that time was $3,599.20 for a heat exchanger and $817.00 for a new inducer fan assembly (the inducer fan motor assembly was previously replaced on 10/30/2012 when it was barely out of the warranty period). The tech also brought our air filters at that time, and I mentioned that I wasn't sure that we should accept them because we weren't sure what we were going to do about the furnace yet. He told me that we could return them if we replaced the furnace, so I went ahead and paid for them. We decided to get estimates to see how much it would cost to replace the furnace before making a final decision to repair or replace. We got a couple of estimates, including one from a high-pressure salesman from Atlas Butler who came out the very afternoon of our inspection. In the end, we did replace our furnace and air-conditioner, but did not select Atlas Butler for multiple reasons.

On October 15, I called Atlas Butler to have them cancel and refund our club membership for the next year (11/1/19-10/31/20), which I had paid for online on September 19, 2019. I also wanted them to pick up the filters and refund our money for those. An Atlas Butler employee named Theresa said that she would get things started on cancelling the membership, but didn't know about the filters. I told her that the tech had said that we could return them. As of October 25, I had heard nothing more, so I called again. Theresa told me that she had sent the information to management. I asked for name and contact information for management, but she said that she could not disclose that information. On October 29, Theresa called me and asked about the filters. I told her that they were still in the box, packed and exactly as they were when they were delivered. She said that she would email the manager back to let them know that, and that the manager will get back to me after they get the email. Well...here it is, November 14, 2019. 30 days from when I first contacted Atlas Butler on this matter, and 16 days since Theresa's last contact. These should not be a difficult issues to resolve, and should not take 30 days, so I have decided to take the issue to the Revdex.com to help get these things resolved and closed.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Nov 15, 2019

Refund of $219.45 has been processed and client should receive in 5-7 business days and we apologize for the delay. The refund for the filters will be processed once they have been returned to our office. Standard procedure is for our clients to return unwanted items to the office unless we our scheduled to return for a repair and/or annual maintenance.

Customer Response • Nov 19, 2019

Revdex.com:I reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find the resolution is satisfactory to me. The filters were returned to Atlas Butler on November 19, 2019. When I returned the filters, I requested that Atlas Butler send receipts for the service club refund, and for the refund for the return of the filters, to my e-mail address on file with Atlas Butler.

Regards

We own a condo in Powell, Ohio on ***. We have had a service Contract with Atlas Butler since January, 2014. In June, 2019, Atlas Butler serviced the compressor, etc. for the air conditioner. The cost of the part was $817.00 which I paid promptly. It wasn't until a few weeks later, I called to set up a service call and was notified that the part I paid for in June of 2019 was for a "temporary" part. They had to use a temporary "board" as a replacement. They assured me that the "temporary board" would work okay until they received the replacement part for the board.
I have called Atlas Butler at least 10+ times and have spoken to several employees, who stated that they would have the "dispatcher" Kyle return my call to rectify the problem.
As of today, November 4, I have not received a call from "Kyle" or anyone else from Atlas Butler. Meanwhile, I still pay the monthly service fee of $14.95, and they have had my $817 for the "part". I am at a loss as to what to do next, other than to contact the Revdex.com. I have even asked to speak to the manager, or top supervisor....but they insist that "Kyle" will rectify the problem.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Nov 15, 2019

The Fan Control Board is the part that we have been waiting on. Per the manufacturer, it is on back order until December 16th 2019 at which time we can have shipped to install in clients unit. We apologize for the delay.

Customer Response • Nov 15, 2019

Revdex.com:

I reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find the resolution is satisfactory to me. However, this is not the first time that they have given me a date as to when the part is to arrive. They have said this numerous times, with other dates, but they fail to contact me to advise me of the status. I have to constantly contact them before they respond. This time, I had to go through the Revdex.com to get a response. How patient must a customer be?

Regards

Today one of the Atlas Butler service men gave our furnace a checkup. All went well until he was ready to leave.
I paid the bill of $190 by credit card -- the service man did not give me a receipt for the payment or notice of what work he had done on the furnace. He neglected to say it would be sent in the mail. I would like a receipt and notice of work completed. Before leaving he asked: "Where is your husband?" After a moment of thought, I replied "he is at church. We usually attend church in the mornings and today I stayed home to meet the Atlas Butler serviceman." Then the serviceman left.

I felt very annoyed and bothered by the very personal question your serviceman asked me. Then I phoned your company to ask to speak with your CEO. I wanted to let someone with power in your company know of this personal question so the individual would not ask the same type question of another customer. I was told your CEO does not have a phone number. The man gave me another phone number to call for your company but said I could not reach the CEO on that line either. I asked to be put through to the CEO's secretary. I thought surely he has a secretary. I was told this was not possible. After that I called the Revdex.com to share this experience with them. I have been a regular customer of Atlas Butler for 12 years and in your monthly payment plan for warranty service. I did not appreciate the trreatment of the man who answered your phone today when I phoned when I felt in distress.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Nov 01, 2019

We here at Atlas Butler apologize for your experience. We have a protocol set up for such situations in which a client wishes to speak with our CEO. We funnel complaints and concerns through our Customer Service Manager and this route was offered to this client. In addition, we will be speaking with that technician to ascertain why he asked that question and we apologize that it upset our client.

Customer Response • Nov 12, 2019

Consumer told Revdex.com via Call Em All survey that complaint is resolved.

Completely negative experience. I had requested a quote for a new AC unit knowing mine needed replacing. They came out to see if they could fix it, took one look and said they couldn't, then charged me $90 for the visit. The check I gave the technician never made it to the accounting department and I was issued a past-due notice. When they came out to give me an estimate, it was way over-priced, and I was heavily pressured into purchasing it, and questioned as to why I was hesitating. I was also told that if I did not replace my entire HVAC system that day my house would catch on fire. I ended up going with another company whose prices and customer service were far superior.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Oct 22, 2019

We here at AB apologize for the lost check. We have removed that balance from our systems and the client will not be responsible for paying that fee. We will be investigating the comment about your house potentially catching fire. We apologize for your overall experience and hope to do business with you in the future.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Feb 20, 2020

We apologize to our client for losing the check. We have since upgraded to electronic scanners to eliminate the possibility of this happening again. As well, we will look into the comment about your house catching on fire and I personally apologize for that comment.

I recently had a gas leak. The gas company came out and told me it was coming from my furnace. Since my furnace is an Atlas Butler furnace ( and I'm a fairly new home owner ) I call them. It ends up being my gas valve ( I know now costs $135 without labor). They show up and I am quoted about $700 for parts and labor. I tell him that I can't afford it, so he tells me that if I become a premium member for $32/mo I will get a discount and it will only be about $450. I agree, he replaces the valve. Then he tells me that my blower is dead and that will run me about $1300 with the discount. with parts and labor I'm looking at about $1800... he then tells me that I might as well replace the whole thing for $5000+... but I get 10% off her being a premium member. I decide to look elsewhere and ask him to take his part back and pay him for the house call.
I get another guy out from a different company, replaces the valve ... shows me that Atlas had snipped the wires that connect the valve to the furnace instead of simply unplugging it. He then tells me and actually SHOWS me that my blower works fine. Parts and labor came to $330.
I will NEVER use them again. I was lied to and taken advantage of.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Nov 01, 2019

We here at Atlas Butler apologize for your experience. We would have liked the opportunity to send a manager to your home for a second look at your system. If what you are saying was indeed true then we would have corrected the issue and disciplined the technician internally. We hope that we can do business with you again in the future and this experience hasn't caused us to lose a valuable client.

Price gouged by Atlas Butler Heating and Cooling for Lennox Heat Pump repair. Service Tech initial diagnosis was the Lennox Heat Pump defrost circuit board needed to be replaced because it did not turn on the fan motor and refrigerant needed to be added to the system. Total charge for this was $890.00; $648.00 for a circuit board that retails for $120.00, a $528.00 upcharge and refrigerant for $242.00. Less than one hour later after the tech left. the heat pump stopped working as before the service was done. The Tech returned and diagnosed the heat pump fan motor needed to be replaced. The total charge for this was $1,019.00 for a fan motor that retails for $138.00, an $881.00 upcharge. Total upcharges were $1,409.00 for a maximum of three labor hours or $470.00 per hour.

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Oct 11, 2019

Atlas Butler doesn’t bill by the hour, only for the job itself. If the job took 10 hours, the price would still be the same. Parts can be found cheaper in any industry online but doesn’t include warranties or a NATE certified technician to install them. The client reached out to AB with a service request and we honored said request. We have upfront pricing that the client agreed to and paid for. We have fulfilled our obligation to the client and are unable to offer a refund of any type.

Customer Response • Oct 16, 2019

AB has been in business long enough to have developed accurate part cost and labor time estimates to replace a defrost circuit board or heat pump fan motor. Their billing standards are excessive for actual part cost and labor time($470/hour).

Since the tech had to return to fix the original problem by installing a new fan motor, I question whether the circuit board replacement was even necessary.

One would expect to trust a vendor to be honest/fair in their dealings with the consumer.

Regards

Atlas Butler Heating And Cooling Response • Oct 18, 2019

Atlas Butler has never provide itemized invoices nor have we ever charged an hourly rate. Not in nearly 100 years of service. The requested service was provided to our client in a timely manner. AB stands by the decision to not refund the client.

Customer Response • Oct 22, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: The original complaint alluded to follow up work performed to fix the heat pump's fan not working. Tech stated the initial problem was due to the defrost circuit board needed replacement to fix the problem.of the fan not turning on. Charged $648.00 to replace a part that was not needed. Returned and stated he had made a mistake. Then charged another $1,019.00 to replace a fan that retails for $138.00. Request the unnecessary $648.00 be refunded.

Regards

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