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6965 Piazza Grande Ave, Orlando, Florida, United States, 32835

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Failure to establish the contracted for 10,000 RCI points with RCI in 2017.
On 16 June 2017 we contracted with Exchange Points Club for 10,000 RCI points to date RCI has not registered these points which were to be provided in 2017. In May 2018 Exchange Points Club's Warren advised us that we had not paid are 2018 dues. I explained to him at that time that the 10,000 points had never been deposited with RCI in 2017 as required by the contract and that we would be happy to pay the 2018 dues once a deposited the 10,000 points which were contracted for on June 16, 2017. After numerous phone calls and email requests we never got an answer from Exchange Points Club. As a result we sent a letter in the middle of May, via ***, to Mr. Kyle B, manager, which is attached requesting that he bring our account up-to-date with the contracted for 10,000 RCI points. This letter was delivered by *** and sign for and we still have not received a reply. If Exchange Points Club cannot deposit the 10,000 RCI points with RCI then we request a total refund of the contract.

Desired Outcome

We want Exchange Points Club to fulfill their contract which was signed on 16 may 2017. Which required them to deposit 10,000 points was RCI in 2017 and bring our account up-to-date through 2018. If Exchange Points club cannot fulfill their part of the contract and we request a refund of the $3,995.00 which we paid for the contract plus interest.

Exchange Response • Jun 29, 2018

In regards to Mr. complaint. We reached out to him Monday, June 25th in regards to this issue and have resolved any questions he had as well as see why the process took longer. Our customer service department manager will be reaching out to him this coming Monday, July 2nd.

Customer Response • Jul 11, 2018

Exchange Points Club did in fact solve the problem and the RCI points have been deposited with RCI

The company is not following through on promises made by the sales department regarding timeshare points rental.
Exchange Points Club. I joined this company last October with the idea of renting my timeshare points at very high prices. I was lied to from the very beginning and it just keeps getting worse. What a scam. I gave them $3995 to be a member for life. They wanted 510,000 points and that's what they took after getting into the right use year. Booked 3 rooms and put names to them. Was told I would start receiving monthly payments of $1000-$1200 a month for 10 months. Thought that I would receive $12000-$14000 dollars to counteract the $3995 already paid. I've received nothing. Surprise!!! Surprise!!!! Now the only way to get away from them is to cancel the reservations that they have control of and that breaks the contract. Now they are holding my reservations hostage. No names attached so they don't have to pay me any money, but they have not returned the points to me. If I cancel the points it will be breaking the contract. If I don't cancel them in a timely manner, I will lose them. - costing me more money. What I would like is my $3995 dollars back plus my points and the contract declared null and void.

Desired Outcome

Exchange Points Club. I joined this company last October with the idea of renting my timeshare points at very high prices. I was lied to from the very beginning and it just keeps getting worse. What a scam. I gave them $3995 to be a member for life. They wanted 510,000 points and that's what they took after getting into the right use year. Booked 3 rooms and put names to them. Was told I would start receiving monthly payments of $1000-$1200 a month for 10 months. Thought that I would receive $12000-$14000 dollars to counteract the $3995 already paid. I've received nothing. Surprise!!! Surprise!!!! Now the only way to get away from them is to cancel the reservations that they have control of and that breaks the contract. Now they are holding my reservations hostage. No names attached so they don't have to pay me any money, but they have not returned the points to me. If I cancel the points it will be breaking the contract. If I don't cancel them in a timely manner, I will lose them. - costing me more money. What I would like is my $3995 dollars back plus my points and the contract declared null and void.

Exchange Response • Jun 20, 2018

To who it may concern,

We currently have bookings on Mr. *** account. There is a reservation in July and November 2018. Once these reservations are fulfilled Mr. would make his money back on his timeshare. Payout would be on October 1st for the first reservation and January 1st, 2019 for the second.

Mr. *** has locked us out of his account, which like I said before we have reservations on his account that he is suppose to be paid on but when a client locks us out of their account the contract is null and void unless we can get back in to make sure the reservations go through. Right now Mr. is costing us a lot of money in us having to rebook these reservation since we cannot access his account. Mr *** will be sent to collections and his credit will be affected if he doesn't fix the issue at hand. We would love to work with Mr. and pay him in his reservations on the specified dates but we have to be able to access the current reservations today.

Thanks

Management

Customer Response • Jun 22, 2018

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
EPC promised to book points in Jan & Feb of '18 & said we would receive money 2 weeks later. That did not happen. When the rooms were booked with names we still received no money. Later EPC cancelled 2 reservations and pulled the names off of the other 2 reservations, so we assumed they were not going to use our reservations and we would lose our points. It's only after we consult a lawyer and call Revdex.com that we got a response from them. If they incur expenses to rebook the reservations, they can take it out of the $4000 dollars we have already paid them for which we have received nothing.

Customer Response • Jun 29, 2018

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
We do not want to do business with these people. We never called them, they called us. We gave them $3995 dollars up front and 510,000 points in October of last year. We were promised big bucks because they dealt with "high clientele". In 9 months we have made nothing and they supposedly have one reservation left in the use year ending in October of '18. Of course there was no name attached to the reservation. The earliest that we can make any money from these people is a year later. That's very poor business practice and we would not have agreed to that. We want as far away from these people as we can get. We are allowing them to keep the $3995 dollars to cover their expenses. We do not want to continue this banter with EPC through Revdex.com. We were drawn into this contract under false advertising from their sales department. Nothing that was promised has come to fruition-not the amount of money nor the timeliness of it. We would like the contract to be declared null and void as stated earlier. We work hard at legitimate jobs to pay for our purchased points and maintenance fees, and we do not want to do business with such a disorganized company as EPC.

Exchange Response • Jul 06, 2018

In response to Mr. *** complaint. We had reservations on his account for July 2018 and he was due to be paid on the reservation in October 2018. We have since been locked out of his account, so he will not get paid for them. We regret his decision to no longer do business with us. If he would like a business relationship in the future, we would be happy to work with Mr. *** and pay Mr. in a timely manner.

Thank you,
Management

We submitted paperwork giving Exchange Pts our*** points to rent out (in time). Exchange Pts did not even take the points, no return call nor email
We paid them almost $5,000 and they have done nothing they promised, despite repeated calls and emails.

Desired Outcome

We want our money back. They have breached the contract and we fell this is a scam.

Exchange Response • Jun 26, 2018

Unforutnately our *** rental platform has been down and we have not been able to rent out any of* points

We are more than happy to rent out *** points so she no longer has to pay to transfer them over to *** and pay all the *** fees. We will put her as first prioty if* agrees to do so and will have her points rented out by the end of next quarter which is September 30th, so she will be sent out a check on October 1st for those rentals. As soon as the *** platform is functioning properly again we will have her *** points rented out as well.

Customer Response • Jul 05, 2018

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
Since purchasing this service, *** has not complied with the agreement terms, allegedly, because their "platform was down". They seem to be saying they have not been able to rent any time shares for the 9 or 10 months since they accepted my $4,500 and *** points. This is not a plausible response. What legitimate company would take money for performing a service and then do nothing for almost a year, and without even explaining the situation to the customer?
It is disturbing (and costly) that they did not bother to advise me of their inability to honor our agreement. This makes me believe I would never have heard from them if I had not filed this complaint. After all, I'm handicapped and 82 years old, maybe they thought no one would notice. I complied with my part of the agreement when paying $4,500 and committing my *** points to them. Since I committed my points I could not use them myself and will now lose 175,000 points on September 30, 2018.They at least had an obligation to advise me that they would not be able to use the points and release them back to me. A major reason to enter this agreement was the fact that I had points that would be lost by September 2018 and this seemed an excellent opportunity to profitably reduce the excess. Since they failed to rent my points or even release them back to me, I no longer have excess points available. Consequently, their offer to put me "first on their list" is unacceptable. A fair offer would be to compensate me the $4,500 fee and offer some form of fair compensation for the loss of my points.

Customer Response • Aug 12, 2018

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
*** obviously plans to extend this complaint forever and is doing so without even minimal attention to detail.
On June 26 they say "unfortunately our *** rental platform has been down and we have not been able to rent any of *** points."
On July 5 they state; "If we are provided*** Diamond points we can get her reimbursed asap."
On August 6 they state; "We have *** turning in 42,500 Diamond points..."
At least they spelled my name correctly this time. However the facts remain the same: I use *** for my timeshare and I only have *** points to exchange. I have never heard of Diamond points. I paid this company $4995.00 to rent the *** points I made available to them. They did not send any money or make any contact with me for a year. I want my money back without further delay.

Exchange Response • Aug 17, 2018

There have been back and forth conversations with ***. We have explained to *** the issues we came across and informed her numerous times now that we are able to rent out her Diamond points.

*** enrolled with both *** and Diamond points per her contract which she has a copy of for her records. Both resorts are listed that we are able to use. *** was down and she was informed of this issue. We can however assist *** with her Diamond points. Even though she did enroll for both points to be used, She only now wants her *** points to be used.

Our customer service has since been in contact with *** in assisting her with this. After some errors being finalized on our end, we are now able to successfully rent out her *** points as well as still utilizing her Diamond points for reimbursement. *** is top priority on the *** list.

We have two separate programs. I am not sure if *** is getting confused with the two services we provide. She is an active member in our system. We have not been able to move forward due to the dispute as we cannot risk bookings on our end to be canceled which will cost us hundreds if not thousands in loss.

No one will answers nor will refund money
June 6, 2018

Exchange Points Club
6965 Piazza Grande Ave 218
Orlando, FL 32835
(844) 385-0276

Mitch S
A.J. D, Customer Service
Warren ??? Customer Service

I recently was convinced that I had found a way and a place to sub-rent my RCI points from Wyndham and come out ahead. I was convinced that your club was an honest, fair, and reliable company. Boy was I wrong! Your company has been overrated as an A- on the Revdex.com.

It has been 5 full months since I joined the exchange club and absolutely nothing has been done yet. The reason that was given to me for the delay was a "glitch" in the system between RCI and Exchange Points Club. A Five month delay for a computer problem??? Absolutely Ridiculous! RCI confirmed the points were transferred Exchange Points Club to back in January.

Mitch promised he could have them all rented by the end of February. Mitch is no longer on the job.
Six weeks ago, A.J. promised to call me about a question. She still has not called. Four weeks ago, A.J. offered me $200 relief because of the "glitch". I still don't have the money. Two weeks ago, Warren in customer service was to call me back on Thursday. He still has not called. He also offered to renew the time on my points. I have been calling for the past two weeks since Warren did not call me back. I'm not sure if no one is there or if you see my number and don't answer, but no one has answered your phone in the past two weeks.

I believe it is time to ask for my money back until you get your "glitch" figured out. I sent you $2995. A.J. offered to send me $200 and warren offered to renew the time for my points for $109. That totals up to $3304.00.

Please return my $3304 as soon as possible. When you get your "glitch" fixed, you can call me and let me know.

Please acknowledge this letter as soon as you get it. If you don't acknowledge by closing time (9:00 PM) Thursday, 6/7/2018, I will be forced start a formal complaint against what I will call a scam.

Thank you

Desired Outcome

June 6, 2018 Exchange Points Club 6965 Piazza Grande Ave 218 Orlando, FL 32835 (844) 385-0276 Mitch S A.J. D, Customer Service Warren ??? Customer Service I recently was convinced that I had found a way and a place to sub-rent my RCI points from Wyndham and come out ahead. I was convinced that your club was an honest, fair, and reliable company. Boy was I wrong! Your company has been overrated as an A- on the Revdex.com. It has been 5 full months since I joined the exchange club and absolutely nothing has been done yet. The reason that was given to me for the delay was a "glitch" in the system between RCI and Exchange Points Club. A Five month delay for a computer problem??? Absolutely Ridiculous! RCI confirmed the points were transferred Exchange Points Club to back in January. Mitch promised he could have them all rented by the end of February. Mitch is no longer on the job. Six weeks ago, A.J. promised to call me about a question. She still has not called. Four weeks ago, A.J. offered me $200 relief because of the "glitch". I still don't have the money. Two weeks ago, Warren in customer service was to call me back on Thursday. He still has not called. He also offered to renew the time on my points. I have been calling for the past two weeks since Warren did not call me back. I'm not sure if no one is there or if you see my number and don't answer, but no one has answered your phone in the past two weeks. I believe it is time to ask for my money back until you get your "glitch" figured out. I sent you $2995. A.J. offered to send me $200 and warren offered to renew the time for my points for $109. That totals up to $3304.00. Please return my $3304 as soon as possible. When you get your "glitch" fixed, you can call me and let me know. Please acknowledge this letter as soon as you get it. If you don't acknowledge by closing time (9:00 PM) Thursday, 6/7/2018, I will be forced start a formal complaint against what I will call a scam. Thank you

Exchange Response • Jun 20, 2018

In response to Mr. ***, he enrolled December 22nd, 2017. The club enrollment takes around 3-4 weeks to set up and Mr. was told by one of the counselors he would receive a call to go over the process. January 25th, 2018 we received a chargeback which completely stopped the set-up of Mr. ***'s account. We did not receive a resolution on this chargeback until February, so the process was put on hold. We have since had contact with Mr.. We sent Mr. a $200 check since this process took longer because of the chargeback and let him know we were working on his account. We also sent out a check for $109 to pay for his points renewal.
Our phone records indicate conversations with Mr. *** which range from a couple minutes to 22 minutes. There are also numerous calls he has made back to back we see in the report.

Misrepresented return on timeshare points that they would rent.
We have made numerous phone calls and sent emails asking for an explanation of what exactly is going on with the money ($4995 on 7/19/17) and points (408,000 of 2018 points, in October 2017 ) that we sent you. Brandon C and Michael S originally sold us the product. Michael initially seemed very helpful. He sent us a refund of $39 because he said that we had been put in the wrong program and that an email to Gracie would make sure that we were in the Club Elite program. That was the last time we were able to get Michael on the phone. Several times he was unavailable and finally we were told that he was no longer in the office. We talked to Robert but got nowhere. His mantra was that we were not guaranteed rental at Club Elite rates. We can read a contract. When we submitted our points we were told that we had gotten in early, but Robert said that all the Club Elite points had been rented before we got our points in. Warren had called 11/22/17 and told us that 357,600 points had been rented and that we would get a check for $1,890 from Vacation Management Group on July 1, 2018. When questioned about the smallness of the check (compared to $9,800 at Club Elite Rates) he said that we would get a second check from Club Elite for the balance. A statement that we have been unable to verify because you won't return phone calls or answer emails.

We feel that Exchange Points Club has misled us from the start and we are asking that you cancel our contract and return our money and our points.

The above was the body of an email that we sent to you on January 12, 2018. We have not seen a response so we are sending a certified letter. Please respond.

***
The certified letter was received by Kelton T. W of Exchange Points Club on February 2, 2018. They have never responded.

February 2, A J Daly called and talked to Kathy. She said that we would get a $255 check for maintenance fees. That plus the $1890 from above equals $2,145, which is the number of points rented (357,600 times $6 per thousand) and equal to the minimum payment that we would get under the contract.
On April 2, 2018 we actually went by the offices of Exchange Points Club. We spoke with Warren Miles who told us that A J Daly now worked directly for him. He said that he started working there in January 2018. I told him that we were promised Club Elite rates for our points by Michael S but that had been told that he had moved to another office or no longer worked there. He assured us that Michael still worked there but was in training that day. He had seen him that morning and would ask him to call us before the week was out. I told Warren that the only solution to our issue was a refund of our $4,995 and payment for the maintenance fees on the points that they had used. Warren said that he would call us later in the day and give us an update.
On April 6 Warren called us back. He said that he had been out all week dealing with a family issue and had just come back to work that day. Then he told me that he was mistaken about Michael S, that he had mixed him up with somebody else and that Michael no longer worked there. He then told me that they were going to increase our maintenance fee payment to 7% per thousand points and that a check was in the mail. He said that because we had already received and cashed the check for $255 that we probably not going to get our $4,995 back. I told him that we had not cashed the check for $255 (I also told him that 4/2/18). He seemed flustered by that and said that our account was still under investigation. I asked him if we cashed the check they were sending, he didn't reveal the amount, would it have any impact on the refund of our $4,995. He said no because it was a reimbursement of maintenance fees. I was confused at this point because the $255 was also for reimbursement of maintenance fees. I decided to wait and see the amount of the check that they were sending.
On April 11, 2018 we received a check for $417. I called Warren and left a voice mail, no response. On April 13 I sent an email asking him to reveal how he calculated the $417, no response. On April 18 I sent an email asking him to respond to my April 13 email, no response. We have not cashed the check.
I am writing to you as a last resort. Exchange Points Club has misrepresented itself from the start. They never intended to pay us the Club Elite points rate of $1,450-$1,700 per 51,000 points. It was a bait and switch scam from the start. We can rent our points, and have done so, for $9 per thousand. Why would we pay them $4,995 up front to rent our points for $3 per thousand less than we could get by renting them ourselves?
I read the complaints about Exchange Points Club on your web site. Unfortunately it was after we signed a contract with them or we would never have done it. Our complaint sounds remarkably like the ones that you have received before.
The principal for Exchange Points Club is listed on your web site is Mr. Kyle B, Manager. He is also listed as the co-owner of Vacation Management Group in House Springs, MO.

Desired Outcome

Return of initial investment of $4,995 and reimbursement of maintenance fees on points rented.

Exchange Response • Jun 05, 2018

To whom it may concern,

I am writing to you in regard to the complaint of ***. Mr. signed a points release form with EPC in later 2017 allowing EPC to use his unused Wyndham points for rental. EPC has utilized Mr. points for vacationing clients and has currently used 390,600 points. EPC pays out clients quarterly after the reservations have been verified and Mr. was advised a check would be sent to him July 1st, 2018.

Since the rental process did take longer than we originally anticipated and projected for Mr., we issued a number of checks which amounted to $672.63.

In regard to the $9,800 Mr. mentioned, the contract states Mr. can receive up to $10,000, however there is always a minimal reimbursement amount guarantee which Mr. can refer back to his original contract and see. The amount we payout is still higher than ANY other company out on the market.

Our customer service department has provided their best efforts in trying to resolve Mr. issues.

Thank you,

Management

Customer Response • Jun 10, 2018

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
I was amused that the person responding to my complaint against Exchange Points Club didn't seem to think that it was important to include their name.
If their customer service department provided their best efforts, then I must have missed their response to a registered letter, numerous emails and numerous phone calls. There was one email response from them early on that I had overlooked in my f*. I am attaching it now and would like a detailed response about exactly what that email means.
When our points were not used in 51K increments, as described in the Club Elite Program, we started asking questions and customer service took a serious downturn. Even a face to face visit with Warren M, whom I suspect is the person that responded to my complaint, resulted in a statement that our account was under investigation and a subsequent phone call that promised that we would be reimbursed at a 7% rate rather than 6%, and a check was in the mail.
We have received two checks from EPC. One for $255 and one for $417. We were told, by Warren, that there would be an additional check for $1,890 coming on July 1 from Vacation Management Group. VMG has confirmed that checks are coming but refuse to disclose the amount.
What we want from EPC is our $4,995 back and a reimbursement for maintenance fees. Their comment about a high payout seems to fall a little short. If we get $255 + $417 + $1,890 = $2,562 and paid $4,995 plus gave them 408,000 time share points, it appears that we are coming up way short. I expect your response to address this issue.

Exchange Response • Jun 19, 2018

Mr*** does call our office quite often and when he does he will usually call 10 times in a row or more, we are a small operation and only have a handful of people that answer the phone but if he would just leave a message he would receive a call back within 24 hours unless it is the weekend. We do not avoid talking to people and have 1,000s of satisfied clients to prove our track record but we do have some issues still, like all companies do, that we are always working on to better. Mr*** has already recieved money from us and will be receiving a lot more very soon from fulfillment on July 1st. So we ask that our clients be paitent and they will be paid on their resort points.

Thanks

Management

Customer Response • Jun 21, 2018

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
Management must have me confused with someone else. Since my face to face meeting with Warren M on April 2, I have called him once and emailed him twice. No response! I have never called ten times in a row! Their responses to my complaint with the Revdex.com have been without substance. I will reiterate my questions to them. Are you going to cancel my contract and refund my $4,995? What are you going to pay me (total amount) for the use of my points?

I have had absolutely no satisfaction with exchange points club. They are great at taking your money and returning nothing in exchange. After dozens of phone calls, all to no avail, I am still out thousands of dollars. I would love to visit their office and do a little dance on their desk. I dealt with a Mr. R, who I haven't talked to since he stole my money.

Bought a contract that would reimburst me for unused RCI and Wyndham points. I paid 1995.00 on Oct 13 2017 with a promise I would recieve a check on Jan. 2, 2018 for points deposited.Have not being able to get any kind answer after leaving many messages. I would like to get my money.
Product_Or_Service: handle detail of rental

Desired Outcome

Refund I WOULD LIKE TO GET MY MONEY BACK BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I WAS SCAMED.

Exchange Response • May 11, 2018

To whom it may concern,

I am writing to you in regard to the complaint of Rodolfo ***. Mr. signed a points release form with us in November 2017 allowing EPC to use his unused Wyndham points for rental. When Mr. signed the release form he only allocated points from his 2018-2019 use year. We can not make bookings on his account and pay him until his 2018 use year points became available, which they are available as of October 2018. We currently have one booking on Mr. wyndham account, as he should be able to see as well by going to myclubywndham.com and view his current bookings. The booking is from November 23 - December 1st of 2018, this is a booking that Mr. will be paid for on January 1st, 2019. All bookings are paid quarterly and unfortunately his points didn't become available until October so that was the soonest we could make any bookings. Mr. did not allow us use of his 2017 points, so we were unable to send him any payment in January. Mr. was also explained this process.

Should Mr. has any questions we would be happy to assist him. He can call our customer service line at ***.

Thank you,

Management

The Exchsnge Points Club agreed to rent my timeshare for 4 weeks in 2017 for no less than $1400. per week. They withdrew my weeks and paid me $143.
Pm 5/26/17 I entered into an agreement with EPC to resell 4 weeks of my timeshare in 2017. They stated if I signed up in the "Green Time" the rentals are guaranteed and I would receive no less than $1400 for each week and receive payment within 12 weeks - Guaranteed!. I asked them to specifically put that in writing in the contract on page 3 section 3. Stating my terms are no less than $1400.

The club withdrew my points and sent a check for $143. When I questioned this they responded more is on the way...When I did not receive anything after the 12 weeks I reached out EPC with no luck. I was passed around, misled, told individuals that assisted me with the sale are no longer employed there but in fact there were etc... Now they do not answer my calls are return my voice or emails. The fee for this service was $1295 which I paid in full on 5/26/17.

I was charged $1295, they withdrew my points from my account and sent a check for $143. I paid the annual maintenance fee for my timeshare ($1300.) but could not use it in 2017 as the timeshare points were "put aside" for EPC.

Desired Outcome

It would be fair for Exchange Points Club (EPC) to pay for the my annual points from 2017 as promised of $1400 per week for 4 weeks totaling $5600. Or reimburse the fee of $1295 and return the points taken from my account in 2017

Exchange Response • Mar 27, 2018

To whom it may concern,

I am writing to you in regard to the complaint of ***. Mr. signed a points release form with EPC in August 2017 allowing EPC to use his unused Hilton points for rental. EPC has utilized Mr. points for vacationing clients and has currently used 2,380 points. Mr. was paid $295.83 for this rental in September 2017, minus the $150 booking fee that is required by Hilton at the time of booking bringing his total rental amount to $145.20.

Since the rental process did take longer than we originally anticipated and projected for Mr., we issued a number of checks which fully reimbursed Mr. for the initial cost he paid of $1,295.00, which was the total cost of his enrollment fee that he paid when he had joined EPC. The $1,295.00 was not for any rentals, this was as a courtesy to pay him for the moneys paid.

EPC's customer service department has had recent communication via telephone and email with Mr., most recent as last week.

Our customer service department has provided their best efforts in trying to resolve Mr. issues and has paid him back the money he has paid into the program plus Mr. still is utilizing the program at no out of pocket costs. He will be able to turn in points every year for maintenance reimbursement and never spend another dollar to do so.

Thank you,

Management

This company is clearly a scam whose business is taking large mounts of money from people and not providing any services in return.
My complaint is nearly identical to all of the previous ones, which I just finished reading. I am a senior citizen with few resources besides Social Security, and am "timeshare poor." This company seemed to be a way to get something in return for the many points and weeks we had been unable to use despite paying large maintenance fees every year. After paying $3995 to belong to the "Club" and being assured that the rental of our weeks and points, for which we would receive $1400-$1750 for each week, would begin within 12-14 weeks. That would have been July 3, 2017, at the latest. It is now January 26, 2018, and we have yet to hear from them about any rental. The person who sold me on this program was Michael S. I have made 7 calls to the company, starting on August 8 with the most recent being January 16, 2018. The first call was not returned after I left a message. The next was answered and I was assured that everything would be just fine, all my weeks would be rented, and they were just a bit slow in renting RCI points. I spoke twice with a person named Austin, and most recently with a woman named A.J., who was described as head of customer service. I explained, as I had before, that most of my weeks and points were expiring on Jan. 31 or February 28 of 2018. I was told to extend all that could be extended and they would reimburse me for the fees when I send them proof of the extension. The person I spoke with on Jan, 8 said she would look into my account, speak with the "rental side" and would call me at 4 P.M. on Jan. 10. She did not call me then or any day after that. I called again on Jan. 12 only to get a message that the office closes early on Fridays. I called on Jan. 16 and A.J. told me I would get a "courtesy check" of $200 for all the points I am losing - for about $14,000 worth of rentals I should have had. I was also told I could receive $5 per 1000 points lost, which would amount to $875 for $9800 worth of rental just for the points expiring at the end of January. I also asked why I should believe that they would reimburse me for the fees required to extend some of my points for another year. I was told that they would send an email right after we hung up, saying that they would make the reimbursement. Not that I had any confidence that an email would in any way guarantee that this would happen - but no email was forthcoming either then or any time since. My experience is exactly like that of the others who have filed complaints - there is always an excuse, which is different every time you call. The most recent was that they have a glitch in the software that deals with the RCI transactions. With all the smart IT people out there, it shouldn't take months to solve a glitch. And - since I gave them my RCI log-in information, they would virtually be logging in as me and making the reservations, so a software glitch on their end should have nothing to do with anything. I am embarrassed at being scammed once again, and for the largest amount of money ever, but I want to know what actions I can take to force them to make this right. I am also shocked that despite nothing but negative complaints and only one review, this bogus company has an A- rating from Revdex.com. I think you should revise your grading system.

Desired Outcome

I want the $3995 that I paid to join this fake company reimbursed. I also gave them ten weeks worth of points at their rate, which was way more points than would be required to reserve weeks with RCI. I would like $500 for each of the lost weeks that they promised to rent for $1400-$1750 each, for a total of $5000. That would bring the total reimbursement to me to $8995. With all the payments of $3995 that they have collected from hundreds of people, they should have no trouble finding the money

Exchange Response • Feb 01, 2018

To whom it may concern:

I am writing you regarding Mrs. complaint. Mrs. signed the points release form (June 2017) as she stated, and we have been able to work with her account. We have since been in contact with Mrs. and we told her we would send her out a courtesy check for the lost/expired points because it was our fault that they had not been rented out. Mrs. refused receiving checks for the lost points and won't work with us for a positive resolution on her account.

Mrs. claims we are scamming her and are a fake company because we have not been able to rent our her RCI points. I am sorry she feels this way and I know our RCI program has taken a lot longer than what we were told by the IT company that is setting it all up. I personally don't understand IT and development but here is what our company that is setting up the RCI points being rented out sent to me as of 3 days ago.

Hi XXXX,

I have been assisting XXXX with the testing of the property import API.

We have resolved a lot of the initial issues, and the API proves to be very stable.

The only functionality that we are still working out is the ability to update channel specific description information. This would include the descriptive copy, bullet points, property title, and headline that would be fed to the XXXXXX website and/or any connected channels. Currently, the API can import this descriptive data initially, however we are not successful in updating the descriptive data when the source of the data changes. We intent on fixing this issue soon.

Despite the descriptive data update issue, the rest of the API appears to be working as intended. In addition, when the description data portion of the API is corrected, we should be able to retroactively update any existing properties that were created through the API. This means that you can start using this new API now, understanding that you will not be able to make changes to the description until that functionality has been updated.

Though the API is ready for your use, we advise taking it slow initially, so that we can ensure all systems are good during real world use. As time passes, and the initial imports run without error, you are free to ramp up throughput. Together, we will need to determine acceptable API limits to optimize server utilization.

You will need a XXXXXX account to manage your imports. It looks like you already have an account with us. Do you want this in your existing XXXXXXX account, or do you want a new account to manage these imports?

Please advise regarding the XXXXXX account configuration, and we will follow-up with documentation and further details regarding import functionality.

Kind regards,

XXXXXXX

I have deleted anyone's name or the name of the IT company for their protection.

Now, with that being stated we have notified Mrs. just like any other RCI clients that if she would like for us to rent out some of her Wyndham points we will do so and have her a check very quickly. The fulfillment time on Wyndham points being booked out is within 1 week, so she will see the results right away and all clients receive their checks quarterly for the bookings that are on their Wyndham account. Also as soon as the RCI issues are finalized we will have her RCI points rented out right away.

Our customer service department has provided their best efforts in trying to resolve Mrs. issues. All our clients get their points rented out and again we are more than happy to show proof of that.

Thanks

Management

Customer Response • Feb 11, 2018

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
I dispute the statement by Exchange Points Club that I won't work with them for a positive resolution to this situation. I assumed that we would continue to try for a satisfactory agreement. The amount they offered me via a "courtesy check" for my lost/expired points was laughable. I had paid them $3995 just to join this club and turned over 175,000 RCI points (worth 7 weeks of rentals at $1400 - the minimum, according to the Club) per week, or $9800, plus RCI weeks trading power of 45 (worth 3 weeks of rentals at $1400, or $4200, for a total of $14,000.

The amount of "courtesy check" offered varied depending on who I was speaking with - one was $200, another was $875, another spoke of "increments of $500." Compared with $14,000 I would have received from rentals, not to mention that the amount offered would not even approach any of the single maintenance fees that I have paid to get these points, I felt that the offer was ridiculous.

I am still hopeful that some kind of accommodation can be reached. The Club offered to reimburse me for the cost of extending some of these expiring points, which I have done. If they will, indeed, reimburse me for those two extensions - one at $125 and the other at $129, and then actually rent out my remaining time "on deposit" with them, I would consider the matter settled. At no time did I state that I refused to work with them further.

My suggestion that this Club is a scam was the result not only of my experience, but also the other complaints filed with the Revdex.com, all of which voiced issues like mine - not having calls returned and not having any of their weeks rented out.

I have always been a very trusting person and have paid a hefty price for that in the past, so I would love to believe that this company will indeed do the things they promised. I will be contacting them again to attempt to resolve this issue.

Exchange Response • Feb 26, 2018

To whom is may concern,

We have reached out to Ms. as well as emailed her and spoke with her. We are reimbursing Ms. the $125 and other $129 which will be mailed out in the form of a check on the 26th of February. We are also currently working on the rentals as her release form was signed and we are able to now proceed with rental bookings.

Thank you,

Management

Customer Response • Mar 12, 2018

(The consumer indicated he/she ACCEPTED the response from the business.)
The company did send me a check for reimbursement of the fees I paid to extend some of my points for another year so they can rent them. They also said they would reimburse me for the 5 weeks worth of points that I lost (could not be extended)since they did not rent them, through no fault of mine. If they do send me reimbursement for these lost points and if they do rent out the weeks that were extended, I will consider the matter settled. If not, I will want to reopen the case.

Failure to deliver contracted services: Timeshare reimbursement.
Falsely advertised/sold contracted services: Program has not worked since inception.
01/24/2017 signed contract (paid $3,995) with Exchange Points Club (EPC) LLC for sale of RCI points. Reimbursement of sale contracted as $1,400 - $1,750 x 10 weeks minus EPC's 20%. Reimbursement expected 12 - 14 weeks from signing contract.

To date (11/01/2017) there has been no reimbursement.

I have confirmation from both EPC and their fulfillment center (RCS) RCI Reimbursement program has never worked.

EPC dishonestly represented themselves as a company with a proven track record for a reimbursement program. A program to date that has never worked.
- In July, EPC offered to exchange my reimbursement program with a significantly lower payout maintenance fee program (84% lower payout).
- In November, EPC offered to pay me $895 in lieu of the contracted $10,000 reimbursement program for 2017. (approx 91% lower than contracted services)

Summary of conversations and correspondence:

04/01/2017 Brandon G (EPC) emailed me new forms as original forms were for wrong program (Wyndham Maintenance Fee program). Submitted correct forms.

07/28/2017 Spoke with Brandon G (EPC). Still setup in wrong program (Wyndham Maintenance Fee program). Told me Reimbursement program was "not the best way to go, it's not working". Said they are working to get things resolved. Maintenance Fee program pays $400 for 100,000 points. Reimbursement program pays $1,400 - $1750 for ~50,000 points.

07/28/2017 Spoke with Lauren at Rental Customer Service (RCS) fulfillment center for EPC. Moved me to the Reimbursement program.

08/01/2017 Wrote to Brandon (attached) advising action to be taken 11/01/2017 if EPC did not meet their contracted commitment.

10/31/2017 Spoke with Robert (EPC). He was to contact RCS for an update. Call back tomorrow.

10/31/2017 Spoke with Gracie at RCS. She told me that they "haven't sold RCI points" as we have to "work out some bugs". "We have to get things resolved between RCI"

11/01/2017 Spoke with Robert (EPC). Has not heard back from RCS. I told him I had spoken with them relaying what RCS had told me. He confirmed the program is not working. He spoke with the CEO. S/he agreed to reimburse me $895 of my $3,995 purchase price. This is not a viable resolution.

Desired Outcome

Refund of purchase price of contract ($3,995) for the following: 1. Failure to live up to contracted services of approximately a $10,000 2017 annual return. 2. Sale of services that "could not" be provided due to product/service not working before and after sale. 3. Dishonestly representing their product/service as a proven working method of investment/reimbursement 4. Using dishonest sales practices advertising a large reimbursement program to draw in clients only to tell the client the program is not working and offering an alternative program that will reimburse them at a significantly lower payout.

Exchange Response

Margaret*** enrolled into our program back on January 24th ,2017.

One complimentary program they are part of is the maintenance program. That program allows them to turn in any of their unused Wyndham and RCI points and we reimburse them on the maintenance fees that they currently pay Wyndham. Ms. is upset that our program took longer then what the representative had told them it would take. We always give clients an average turn around on when we will pay them out on their unused points. As Ms. stated, when we spoke to her last we confirmed her check for maintenance would be sent to her early November. Checks are sent the first Friday of every month, which would be today (November 3, 2017.) This was sent*** and she should be received it today. Per the enrollment she signed it stated she would be paid this.

We are more than happy to assist our client in any way.

Customer Response

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
On 01/24/2017, I signed an agreement for Exchange Points Club (EPC) Elite program (contract attached). The program allows for up to 500,000 Wyndham points to be deposited into RCI and sold by Exchange Points Club. The contract states that the rental price is $1400-1750 x 10 (approx 50,000 points per rental). I deposited 436,000 points. Return on $3,995 investment would be approximately $14,000.

EPC appears to be saying that I am in the Maintenance Fee Reimbursement program. Even if that were the case, the contract states payout would be made within 90 days of signing the agreement. I am a Silver Wyndham owner. Payout for the 436,000 points I deposited would be $1,744 that I should have received April 2017 (90 days after contract). It was only until I contacted the Revdex.com that they have made any attempt to pay any monies owed to me.

Last week when I spoke with Robert, he stated the CEO said they would take the loss and payout the reimbursement fee of approximately $800 and it would be delivered Monday 11/06. To date, I have received nothing from EPC.

This demonstrates that Exchange Points Club has continued to conduct unethical business practices.

I am requesting that my investment of $3,995 be reimbursed as I did not sign up for the Maintenance Reimbursement Program and they sold a service that has not worked since Jan 2017.

Exchange Response

To whom is may concern,

In regards to the last response from Ms. she stated we did not cooperate in sending the check until she contacted you which was 11/2/17. Prior to a Revdex.com complaint even being filed we spoke with Ms. in sending her a check. Ms. was told this on the 1st of November, before the complaint.

Ms. stated she deposited 436,000 points from the Wyndham account which were deposited into RCI. The form received only has 364,000 points allocated for 2017. We sent Ms. a check with a portion of her reimbursement ($895.00) in good faith once she allocated her points. After receiving this information and logged in, Ms.s RCI account has zero points. We cannot do anything with zero points. The points allocated were not in the account. The Wyndham account she also provided was a wrong user ID or password so therefor we could not even access any points. We sent the check in good faith and now have a loss on our end with no correct information from our client, Ms.. Once Ms. resigns the release form for her points with her correct information we can proceed to move forward on reservations.

Customer Response

(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
Let me address EPCs response with a few additional questions.

I contracted with EPC for the "Club Elite" program (ROI approx $12,000 annually), not the Reimbursement program (ROI approx $1,700 annually).

EPC wrote: "We (EPC) did not cooperate in sending the check until she contacted you which was 11/2/17. Prior to a Revdex.com complaint even being filed we spoke with Ms. in sending her a check. Ms. was told this on the 1st of November, before the complaint."

Response: I told EPC on 11/01/2017 that they had not upheld their end of the contract and that I was filing a Revdex.com complaint. When I was informed of the refund check it was not in good faith. I was told that the CEO would 'eat' the loss of points and refund $895 for the 2017 year. At that time EPC was told that was not a viable offer/solution. I would move forward with my complaint.

Question: How was the $895 calculated as a viable resolution to what was contracted, return of approx. $12,000 or $3,000 shy of my deposited money and a cancellation of the contract?

EPC: "Ms. stated she deposited 436,000 points from the Wyndham account which were deposited into RCI. The form received only has 364,000 points allocated for 2017."

Response: In the initial conversation in Jan. I had 364,000 points which were deposited into RCI for resale by EPC. Speaking with the EPC rep. at that time, he was told that I would deposit the additional 136,000 from 2018 once I began recognizing an ROI. Regardless of how many points were deposited, EPC contracted to sell my RCI points in 2017. As of 11/01/2017, there has been no activity on my account. In July, I informed RCI in an email that if I had not seen any transactions on my account, I would file a complaint with the Revdex.com for failure to perform the contracted service.

EPC: "We sent Ms. a check with a portion of her reimbursement ($895.00) in good faith once she allocated her points."

Response: Points were "allocated" to my RCI account on 01/24/2017. During the sale of this contract in Jan, I was told I would receive my Elite Club reimbursement in 12-14 weeks. Reimbursement should have been received some time in April. I have had several conversations with EPC throughout the year. It was only until I stated I was filing a Revdex.com claim did they offer the $895, which again was not considered a viable solution for my 2017 RCI points.

EPC: After receiving this information and logged in, Ms.s RCI account has zero points. We cannot do anything with zero points. The points allocated were not in the account."

Response: RCI account currently has 301,000 points. I have begun using these so I would not lose them. See attached document RCI Screenshot.png

My Wyndham Club has zero points. EPC is not contracted to use my Wyndham account for any reason other than to access my RCI points.

EPC: "The Wyndham account she also provided was a wrong user ID or password so therefor we could not even access any points."

Response: On Nov 3rd, I changed my password. I am filing a complaint against EPC for deceptive business practices. It is only reasonable that one would lock a company out of private information that is using deceptive business practices. See attached WyndhamPasswordChange.png.

EPC: "We sent the check in good faith and now have a loss on our end with no correct information from our client, Ms.. Once Ms. resigns the release form for her points with her correct information we can proceed to move forward on reservations."

Response: What is EPC committing to in this statement "we can proceed to move forward on reservations."? Be very specific as I want to ensure the Revdex.com has record of what service the company will provide and the ROI of this service. Please attach a copy of the contract that needs to be signed by me before you will take action on my account.

Question: To date, both a representative from EPC and the fulfillment center have stated the program for which I contracted with (Reimbursement Program) has not worked due to a 'bug' between EPC and RCI. Please respond to this statement made by EPC reps as well as the fulfillment center reps.

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