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Pet's Best Insurance Services

2323 S Vista Ave Ste 100, Boise, Idaho, United States, 83705-7343

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I paid for the top tier policy Pets Best offered, for both of my cats. When one of them became ill, the only claim I have ever filed was denied because supposedly he had a "pre-existing condition". The only thing pre-existing about his condition was that this company doesn't want to pay for claims made on policies that are being paid for. Not only did it take significantly longer for the original claim denial to come through, but the denial of my appeal then took a further two months. The date of the visit to the animal hospital was in Mid May, I filed the claim immediately, and the first denial didn't come until the end of June. It is now mid-August, and I just received the denial of my appeal today. I am disgusted with this company. Their supposed care and concern for pets and owners, seems to be a guise for only caring about their bank balances. What a scam!

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Aug 28, 2019

Hi ***, thank you for your review. The claim was denied accordingly as you disclosed upon online self-enrollment that your pet suffered from Asthma prior to the policy effective date. We still requested medical records from your vet to check whether the claimed condition was related or not. Medical records from your vet indicate in fact the claimed condition was Asthma, which per your information, your pet suffered from prior to coverage. If you disagree with the claim decision, you are welcome to file an appeal with supporting documents. We wish you the best.

I tried to file for preauthorization for my dogs torn acl and they refused to pay it because the said it was medical not accidental when he was playing at the dog park but I added the additional coverage for chiropractic and acupuncture for ACL before this Happened and the representative told me hes all set and covered and now I find out I have a 5month waiting time for this they went ahead and cancelled my policy after threatening to sue due to not being disclosed about this stuff when I spoke to the rep. They wouldn't refund me completely only a prorated amount which is understandable but the company is ridiculous after reading that others had the same issue I wasnt surprised.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Aug 28, 2019

Hi ***, thank you for your review of our company. We see you self-enrolled in the policy on our website where we list our waiting periods on the quote form as well as detailed in the policy documents that were provided after enrollment for your careful review. A cruciate ligament injury typically carries a one year waiting period and we have reduced that with PetsBest to only six months. We wish Jackson the best.

I tried to file for preauthorization for my dogs torn acl and they refused to pay it because the said it was medical not accidental when he was playing at the dog park but I added the additional coverage for chiropractic and acupuncture for ACL before this Happened and the representative told me hes all set and covered and now I find out I have a 5month waiting time for this they went ahead and cancelled my policy after threatening to sue due to not being disclosed about this stuff when I spoke to the rep. They wouldn't refund me completely only a prorated amount which is understandable but the company is ridiculous after reading that others had the same issue I wasnt surprised.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Aug 28, 2019

Hi ***, thank you for your review of our company. We see you self-enrolled in the policy on our website where we list our waiting periods on the quote form as well as detailed in the policy documents that were provided after enrollment for your careful review. A cruciate ligament injury typically carries a one year waiting period and we have reduced that with PetsBest to only six months. We wish Jackson the best.

I tried to file for preauthorization for my dogs torn acl and they refused to pay it because the said it was medical not accidental when he was playing at the dog park but I added the additional coverage for chiropractic and acupuncture for ACL before this Happened and the representative told me hes all set and covered and now I find out I have a 5month waiting time for this they went ahead and cancelled my policy after threatening to sue due to not being disclosed about this stuff when I spoke to the rep. They wouldn't refund me completely only a prorated amount which is understandable but the company is ridiculous after reading that others had the same issue I wasnt surprised.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Aug 28, 2019

Hi ***, thank you for your review of our company. We see you self-enrolled in the policy on our website where we list our waiting periods on the quote form as well as detailed in the policy documents that were provided after enrollment for your careful review. A cruciate ligament injury typically carries a one year waiting period and we have reduced that with PetsBest to only six months. We wish Jackson the best.

I tried to file for preauthorization for my dogs torn acl and they refused to pay it because the said it was medical not accidental when he was playing at the dog park but I added the additional coverage for chiropractic and acupuncture for ACL before this Happened and the representative told me hes all set and covered and now I find out I have a 5month waiting time for this they went ahead and cancelled my policy after threatening to sue due to not being disclosed about this stuff when I spoke to the rep. They wouldn't refund me completely only a prorated amount which is understandable but the company is ridiculous after reading that others had the same issue I wasnt surprised.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Aug 28, 2019

Hi ***, thank you for your review of our company. We see you self-enrolled in the policy on our website where we list our waiting periods on the quote form as well as detailed in the policy documents that were provided after enrollment for your careful review. A cruciate ligament injury typically carries a one year waiting period and we have reduced that with PetsBest to only six months. We wish Jackson the best.

I contacted Pets Best about a recent claim that I filed on July 12, 2019 for some semi annual shots for my pet Jetsen. Anyhow, I pay for a pet discount plan through Pet Assure which is $99 because Pets Best does not cover my pet for semi annual shots. The discount allows a vet who participates to give me 25% off a bill. My total was $125.15 but with the Pet Assure discount of $5.51 and a nurse discount of $3.09 (my dog's vet gave a discount) the total was now $116.55. You know what Pets Best does, they take the discount that was just for me and subtracted it from the $45 exam that they were suppose to rebate me back. How can you take away and apply it to my pet insurance policy when the secondary pet discount is something I had to pay for to get? No where on my receipt does it say that the discount was discounted from the exam. It was a discount applied to the invoice total. One discount I had to pay for and the other was courtesy of my veterinarian. This is not the first time that I have had an issue with this company. Anyhow, the rep claimed she was going to forward the issue to her claims department. I cancelled the policy because they continuously try to rip customers off.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 23, 2019

Mr. complaint seemingly takes issue with the terms of the policy. This policy states: “OPTIONAL WELLNESS BENEFIT. We will pay the actual costs incurred for the following Wellness Benefits your Pet(s) receives from a licensed veterinarian during the Policy Term up to the Maximum Limit shown in the Wellness Benefit Schedule.” (emphasis added)

The only covered item in Mr. claim was the examination fee itself totaling $45.00. As Mr. readily notes, “The discount allows a vet who participates to give me 25% off a bill.” Thus, each line item on the invoice, including the covered exam, had the discounts applied. Mr. of $45.00 was discounted to $33.35 since this was the out of pocket expense for the covered item.

What Mr. seemingly takes issue with is not being able to profit off the discount. The Pet Assure discount is something Mr. purchased on his own volition and is not something offered through Pets Best. The discount offered through this program is a wholly separate arrangement not involving Pets Best. Mr. is not entitled to reimbursement at a higher amount than what he expended for the covered item. Since Mr. only expended $33.45 for the covered item, this amount is all his policy reimburses.

An illustration may help understand. Say a person incurred $10,000 of medical care charges at a hospital. Without insurance, they would have to pay this amount out of pocket. However, the hospital charges the insurance company a discounted rate of $6,000 for this exact care. Would the insurance company be expected to pay the hospital $6,000 and remit the $4,000 to the policyholder? Clearly not. Mr. is essentially asking for the $4,000 amount to be directed to him in this scenario.

Customer Response • Jul 23, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because: Pets Best is still missing the point. Any discounts that are to be applied to any services would have been listed in the description, not after the patient subtotal. Pets Best is trying to profit by attaching additional discounts to avoid payment. You will see on the invoice dated 1/7/2019 for claim #*** where in the description, a charge for $45 was applied and then a exam discount of -$45 was also applied. Further in the receipt, you will notice that once again, I applied my Pet Assure discount, and notice on the receipt it is after the subtotal which means it is not being applied to any of the services rendered in the description, only to the invoice total. Pets Best, once again, took that discount as well and applied it. I will state this again, I paid to get the discount, so how does an insurance company utilize my discount for its benefit? I have upload receipts for the claim in January 2019 and in July 2019.

Sincerely,

***

***DOCUMENTS REDACTED BY THE Revdex.com

I contacted Pets Best about a recent claim that I filed on July 12, 2019 for some semi annual shots for my pet Jetsen. Anyhow, I pay for a pet discount plan through Pet Assure which is $99 because Pets Best does not cover my pet for semi annual shots. The discount allows a vet who participates to give me 25% off a bill. My total was $125.15 but with the Pet Assure discount of $5.51 and a nurse discount of $3.09 (my dog's vet gave a discount) the total was now $116.55. You know what Pets Best does, they take the discount that was just for me and subtracted it from the $45 exam that they were suppose to rebate me back. How can you take away and apply it to my pet insurance policy when the secondary pet discount is something I had to pay for to get? No where on my receipt does it say that the discount was discounted from the exam. It was a discount applied to the invoice total. One discount I had to pay for and the other was courtesy of my veterinarian. This is not the first time that I have had an issue with this company. Anyhow, the rep claimed she was going to forward the issue to her claims department. I cancelled the policy because they continuously try to rip customers off.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 23, 2019

Mr. complaint seemingly takes issue with the terms of the policy. This policy states: “OPTIONAL WELLNESS BENEFIT. We will pay the actual costs incurred for the following Wellness Benefits your Pet(s) receives from a licensed veterinarian during the Policy Term up to the Maximum Limit shown in the Wellness Benefit Schedule.” (emphasis added)

The only covered item in Mr. claim was the examination fee itself totaling $45.00. As Mr. readily notes, “The discount allows a vet who participates to give me 25% off a bill.” Thus, each line item on the invoice, including the covered exam, had the discounts applied. Mr. of $45.00 was discounted to $33.35 since this was the out of pocket expense for the covered item.

What Mr. seemingly takes issue with is not being able to profit off the discount. The Pet Assure discount is something Mr. purchased on his own volition and is not something offered through Pets Best. The discount offered through this program is a wholly separate arrangement not involving Pets Best. Mr. is not entitled to reimbursement at a higher amount than what he expended for the covered item. Since Mr. only expended $33.45 for the covered item, this amount is all his policy reimburses.

An illustration may help understand. Say a person incurred $10,000 of medical care charges at a hospital. Without insurance, they would have to pay this amount out of pocket. However, the hospital charges the insurance company a discounted rate of $6,000 for this exact care. Would the insurance company be expected to pay the hospital $6,000 and remit the $4,000 to the policyholder? Clearly not. Mr. is essentially asking for the $4,000 amount to be directed to him in this scenario.

Customer Response • Jul 23, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because: Pets Best is still missing the point. Any discounts that are to be applied to any services would have been listed in the description, not after the patient subtotal. Pets Best is trying to profit by attaching additional discounts to avoid payment. You will see on the invoice dated 1/7/2019 for claim #*** where in the description, a charge for $45 was applied and then a exam discount of -$45 was also applied. Further in the receipt, you will notice that once again, I applied my Pet Assure discount, and notice on the receipt it is after the subtotal which means it is not being applied to any of the services rendered in the description, only to the invoice total. Pets Best, once again, took that discount as well and applied it. I will state this again, I paid to get the discount, so how does an insurance company utilize my discount for its benefit? I have upload receipts for the claim in January 2019 and in July 2019.

Sincerely,

***

***DOCUMENTS REDACTED BY THE Revdex.com

I contacted Pets Best about a recent claim that I filed on July 12, 2019 for some semi annual shots for my pet Jetsen. Anyhow, I pay for a pet discount plan through Pet Assure which is $99 because Pets Best does not cover my pet for semi annual shots. The discount allows a vet who participates to give me 25% off a bill. My total was $125.15 but with the Pet Assure discount of $5.51 and a nurse discount of $3.09 (my dog's vet gave a discount) the total was now $116.55. You know what Pets Best does, they take the discount that was just for me and subtracted it from the $45 exam that they were suppose to rebate me back. How can you take away and apply it to my pet insurance policy when the secondary pet discount is something I had to pay for to get? No where on my receipt does it say that the discount was discounted from the exam. It was a discount applied to the invoice total. One discount I had to pay for and the other was courtesy of my veterinarian. This is not the first time that I have had an issue with this company. Anyhow, the rep claimed she was going to forward the issue to her claims department. I cancelled the policy because they continuously try to rip customers off.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 23, 2019

Mr. complaint seemingly takes issue with the terms of the policy. This policy states: “OPTIONAL WELLNESS BENEFIT. We will pay the actual costs incurred for the following Wellness Benefits your Pet(s) receives from a licensed veterinarian during the Policy Term up to the Maximum Limit shown in the Wellness Benefit Schedule.” (emphasis added)

The only covered item in Mr. claim was the examination fee itself totaling $45.00. As Mr. readily notes, “The discount allows a vet who participates to give me 25% off a bill.” Thus, each line item on the invoice, including the covered exam, had the discounts applied. Mr. of $45.00 was discounted to $33.35 since this was the out of pocket expense for the covered item.

What Mr. seemingly takes issue with is not being able to profit off the discount. The Pet Assure discount is something Mr. purchased on his own volition and is not something offered through Pets Best. The discount offered through this program is a wholly separate arrangement not involving Pets Best. Mr. is not entitled to reimbursement at a higher amount than what he expended for the covered item. Since Mr. only expended $33.45 for the covered item, this amount is all his policy reimburses.

An illustration may help understand. Say a person incurred $10,000 of medical care charges at a hospital. Without insurance, they would have to pay this amount out of pocket. However, the hospital charges the insurance company a discounted rate of $6,000 for this exact care. Would the insurance company be expected to pay the hospital $6,000 and remit the $4,000 to the policyholder? Clearly not. Mr. is essentially asking for the $4,000 amount to be directed to him in this scenario.

Customer Response • Jul 23, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because: Pets Best is still missing the point. Any discounts that are to be applied to any services would have been listed in the description, not after the patient subtotal. Pets Best is trying to profit by attaching additional discounts to avoid payment. You will see on the invoice dated 1/7/2019 for claim #*** where in the description, a charge for $45 was applied and then a exam discount of -$45 was also applied. Further in the receipt, you will notice that once again, I applied my Pet Assure discount, and notice on the receipt it is after the subtotal which means it is not being applied to any of the services rendered in the description, only to the invoice total. Pets Best, once again, took that discount as well and applied it. I will state this again, I paid to get the discount, so how does an insurance company utilize my discount for its benefit? I have upload receipts for the claim in January 2019 and in July 2019.

Sincerely,

***

***DOCUMENTS REDACTED BY THE Revdex.com

I contacted Pets Best about a recent claim that I filed on July 12, 2019 for some semi annual shots for my pet Jetsen. Anyhow, I pay for a pet discount plan through Pet Assure which is $99 because Pets Best does not cover my pet for semi annual shots. The discount allows a vet who participates to give me 25% off a bill. My total was $125.15 but with the Pet Assure discount of $5.51 and a nurse discount of $3.09 (my dog's vet gave a discount) the total was now $116.55. You know what Pets Best does, they take the discount that was just for me and subtracted it from the $45 exam that they were suppose to rebate me back. How can you take away and apply it to my pet insurance policy when the secondary pet discount is something I had to pay for to get? No where on my receipt does it say that the discount was discounted from the exam. It was a discount applied to the invoice total. One discount I had to pay for and the other was courtesy of my veterinarian. This is not the first time that I have had an issue with this company. Anyhow, the rep claimed she was going to forward the issue to her claims department. I cancelled the policy because they continuously try to rip customers off.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 23, 2019

Mr. complaint seemingly takes issue with the terms of the policy. This policy states: “OPTIONAL WELLNESS BENEFIT. We will pay the actual costs incurred for the following Wellness Benefits your Pet(s) receives from a licensed veterinarian during the Policy Term up to the Maximum Limit shown in the Wellness Benefit Schedule.” (emphasis added)

The only covered item in Mr. claim was the examination fee itself totaling $45.00. As Mr. readily notes, “The discount allows a vet who participates to give me 25% off a bill.” Thus, each line item on the invoice, including the covered exam, had the discounts applied. Mr. of $45.00 was discounted to $33.35 since this was the out of pocket expense for the covered item.

What Mr. seemingly takes issue with is not being able to profit off the discount. The Pet Assure discount is something Mr. purchased on his own volition and is not something offered through Pets Best. The discount offered through this program is a wholly separate arrangement not involving Pets Best. Mr. is not entitled to reimbursement at a higher amount than what he expended for the covered item. Since Mr. only expended $33.45 for the covered item, this amount is all his policy reimburses.

An illustration may help understand. Say a person incurred $10,000 of medical care charges at a hospital. Without insurance, they would have to pay this amount out of pocket. However, the hospital charges the insurance company a discounted rate of $6,000 for this exact care. Would the insurance company be expected to pay the hospital $6,000 and remit the $4,000 to the policyholder? Clearly not. Mr. is essentially asking for the $4,000 amount to be directed to him in this scenario.

Customer Response • Jul 23, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because: Pets Best is still missing the point. Any discounts that are to be applied to any services would have been listed in the description, not after the patient subtotal. Pets Best is trying to profit by attaching additional discounts to avoid payment. You will see on the invoice dated 1/7/2019 for claim #*** where in the description, a charge for $45 was applied and then a exam discount of -$45 was also applied. Further in the receipt, you will notice that once again, I applied my Pet Assure discount, and notice on the receipt it is after the subtotal which means it is not being applied to any of the services rendered in the description, only to the invoice total. Pets Best, once again, took that discount as well and applied it. I will state this again, I paid to get the discount, so how does an insurance company utilize my discount for its benefit? I have upload receipts for the claim in January 2019 and in July 2019.

Sincerely,

***

***DOCUMENTS REDACTED BY THE Revdex.com

I have an indoor cat. I took her for a wellness check. She was fine, she just had a small ear infection. The total cost was $240 with her shots and medicine. Well, I submitted my claim, thinking I would get at least half back through pets best. I get an email stating it would take 5 days to process, well a month later and countless hours of sending paperwork and making calls to my vet then relaying info back to pets best, I still haven't received a dime! In addition to the $240 I spent on the actual vet visit, I've had the policy for 6 months which was another $250. I'm cancelling my policy. Seriously, this insurance is a joke! I would have made out better just creating a savings fund for my cat each year! I DO NOT Recommend this company! It's claims policy is bordering on FRAUD! There was no mention of paperwork nor 30 days needed when I signed up. If I didn't contact them I received no information. Fraud advertising, Fraud customer service 5 days turned into weeks. I’m out $500 and I have no product. I received no insurance from Pets Worst...Pets so called Best Insurance. This has been such a headache. Going back and forth between Vet and Pets Best. With no Satisfactory Resolution.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 22, 2019

Explanation of Ms. Claim Processing Complaint.
Ms. purchased an Accident & Illness policy, with a $250.00 deductible and 90% reimbursement, with an added Wellness rider, on March 11, 2019. On June 28, 2019, she brought her pet to her veterinarian for a Wellness exam. The pet was noted to have an ear infection at that time as well. Ms. submitted her claim on June 28, 2019.
Because this claim was both for a Wellness exam (covered under the Wellness rider) and an Illness (Otitis/ear infection), the claim was split on July 7, 2019. On July 8, 2019, Pets Best requested 12 months of medical records from *** for review. This review is necessary as the policy contains a Pre-existing Condition exclusion and no reimbursement is available for conditions that displayed signs or symptoms prior to policy inception or during an applicable waiting period. Otitis (ear infections) is a fairly common condition that is related to allergies. As a result, records are generally requested for review of the first claim to determine if the Pre-existing Condition exclusion applies.
Ms. inquired with Pets Best on July 15, 2019 to verify the records were received that day via email. In confirming receipt of records, a Customer Care agent advised the records would be reviewed and if all necessary information had been provided, the claim would be processed accordingly.
Review of these records showed a gap of three years where the pet had not been seen. Often this gap is due to the pet being seen at a different veterinarian whose records have not been submitted or obtained. Due to this gap in time (which is significant for a pet), the processor sent a request on July 16 (the next day) to contact Ms. to determine whether the pet had been seen elsewhere or if any additional records were available. Ms. responded to this email expressing frustration with the delay. Ms. called the next morning (July 17) to advise that she did not have the money for veterinarian visits during the three-year gap and did not take the pet for any examinations. She also noted that she adopted the pet in 2011 from ***. This information was added to her claim and relayed for processing.\
Ms. inquired on July 19 as to the status of her claim and demanded immediate processing. A customer care agent explained in detail why records were needed and how this impacted the processing time. Ms. chose to cancel her policy at that time and received a refund of $29.00. Cancellations do not impact the processing or outcome of any claims and Ms. claim was processed as normal on July 20, 2019. The complete records and information revealed that the claim was covered under the policy.
Ms. was reimbursed $45.00 for vaccinations under the Wellness rider. Under the Accident & Illness policy, as noted, there is a $250.00 deductible and, once satisfied, the policy reimburses 90% of covered expenses. Ms. Illness claim totaled $175.00 of which $76.35 was not covered as it related to vaccines and addressed in the Wellness portion of the claim. Of the remaining $88.79, $9.86 was Ms. co-pay amount and $88.79 was covered under the Policy. The $88.79 was applied toward the $250 deductible.
No Refund of Premiums Available.
Ms. policy was effective from March 12, 2019 through July 20, 2019 paid in monthly increments of $41.55. She received a refund of $29.00 upon cancellation. She requests a $240 refund for her claim. However, even if this full amount were covered under her policy, it would not exceed the $250.00 deductible. Additionally, only 90% of the $240.00 would apply toward the deductible. Unfortunately, no additional refund is available.
Specific Policy Provisions.
The Policy Ms. purchase addresses each of her concerns noted in her complaint:
1. Refunds are returned pro rata: Section 4(H).
2. Claims are Processed as Quickly as Possible: Section 6
3. We may require complete medical records: Section 6(C).
4. Co-insurance & Deductible: Section 7(A)-(B).
We advertise that most claims are processed in 5 days or less, which is true. However, they may be delayed when additional records are needed. As illustrated here, records were requested on July 8 but not obtained until July 15. Once complete records were obtained the claim was processed within five days.

Customer Response • Jul 23, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because:

because, I never would have started the policy had any of your response been noted when I started. It is still FRAUDULENT to send notifications about how easy your insurance is on claims, and how much better your life is with insurance only to find out your non listed policy takes weeks to process and the return on investment is little to none. I know the truth about your company now and will proceed to tell the online community since you insist on stealing from the public.

Sincerely

I have an indoor cat. I took her for a wellness check. She was fine, she just had a small ear infection. The total cost was $240 with her shots and medicine. Well, I submitted my claim, thinking I would get at least half back through pets best. I get an email stating it would take 5 days to process, well a month later and countless hours of sending paperwork and making calls to my vet then relaying info back to pets best, I still haven't received a dime! In addition to the $240 I spent on the actual vet visit, I've had the policy for 6 months which was another $250. I'm cancelling my policy. Seriously, this insurance is a joke! I would have made out better just creating a savings fund for my cat each year! I DO NOT Recommend this company! It's claims policy is bordering on FRAUD! There was no mention of paperwork nor 30 days needed when I signed up. If I didn't contact them I received no information. Fraud advertising, Fraud customer service 5 days turned into weeks. I’m out $500 and I have no product. I received no insurance from Pets Worst...Pets so called Best Insurance. This has been such a headache. Going back and forth between Vet and Pets Best. With no Satisfactory Resolution.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 22, 2019

Explanation of Ms. Claim Processing Complaint.
Ms. purchased an Accident & Illness policy, with a $250.00 deductible and 90% reimbursement, with an added Wellness rider, on March 11, 2019. On June 28, 2019, she brought her pet to her veterinarian for a Wellness exam. The pet was noted to have an ear infection at that time as well. Ms. submitted her claim on June 28, 2019.
Because this claim was both for a Wellness exam (covered under the Wellness rider) and an Illness (Otitis/ear infection), the claim was split on July 7, 2019. On July 8, 2019, Pets Best requested 12 months of medical records from *** for review. This review is necessary as the policy contains a Pre-existing Condition exclusion and no reimbursement is available for conditions that displayed signs or symptoms prior to policy inception or during an applicable waiting period. Otitis (ear infections) is a fairly common condition that is related to allergies. As a result, records are generally requested for review of the first claim to determine if the Pre-existing Condition exclusion applies.
Ms. inquired with Pets Best on July 15, 2019 to verify the records were received that day via email. In confirming receipt of records, a Customer Care agent advised the records would be reviewed and if all necessary information had been provided, the claim would be processed accordingly.
Review of these records showed a gap of three years where the pet had not been seen. Often this gap is due to the pet being seen at a different veterinarian whose records have not been submitted or obtained. Due to this gap in time (which is significant for a pet), the processor sent a request on July 16 (the next day) to contact Ms. to determine whether the pet had been seen elsewhere or if any additional records were available. Ms. responded to this email expressing frustration with the delay. Ms. called the next morning (July 17) to advise that she did not have the money for veterinarian visits during the three-year gap and did not take the pet for any examinations. She also noted that she adopted the pet in 2011 from ***. This information was added to her claim and relayed for processing.\
Ms. inquired on July 19 as to the status of her claim and demanded immediate processing. A customer care agent explained in detail why records were needed and how this impacted the processing time. Ms. chose to cancel her policy at that time and received a refund of $29.00. Cancellations do not impact the processing or outcome of any claims and Ms. claim was processed as normal on July 20, 2019. The complete records and information revealed that the claim was covered under the policy.
Ms. was reimbursed $45.00 for vaccinations under the Wellness rider. Under the Accident & Illness policy, as noted, there is a $250.00 deductible and, once satisfied, the policy reimburses 90% of covered expenses. Ms. Illness claim totaled $175.00 of which $76.35 was not covered as it related to vaccines and addressed in the Wellness portion of the claim. Of the remaining $88.79, $9.86 was Ms. co-pay amount and $88.79 was covered under the Policy. The $88.79 was applied toward the $250 deductible.
No Refund of Premiums Available.
Ms. policy was effective from March 12, 2019 through July 20, 2019 paid in monthly increments of $41.55. She received a refund of $29.00 upon cancellation. She requests a $240 refund for her claim. However, even if this full amount were covered under her policy, it would not exceed the $250.00 deductible. Additionally, only 90% of the $240.00 would apply toward the deductible. Unfortunately, no additional refund is available.
Specific Policy Provisions.
The Policy Ms. purchase addresses each of her concerns noted in her complaint:
1. Refunds are returned pro rata: Section 4(H).
2. Claims are Processed as Quickly as Possible: Section 6
3. We may require complete medical records: Section 6(C).
4. Co-insurance & Deductible: Section 7(A)-(B).
We advertise that most claims are processed in 5 days or less, which is true. However, they may be delayed when additional records are needed. As illustrated here, records were requested on July 8 but not obtained until July 15. Once complete records were obtained the claim was processed within five days.

Customer Response • Jul 23, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because:

because, I never would have started the policy had any of your response been noted when I started. It is still FRAUDULENT to send notifications about how easy your insurance is on claims, and how much better your life is with insurance only to find out your non listed policy takes weeks to process and the return on investment is little to none. I know the truth about your company now and will proceed to tell the online community since you insist on stealing from the public.

Sincerely

I have an indoor cat. I took her for a wellness check. She was fine, she just had a small ear infection. The total cost was $240 with her shots and medicine. Well, I submitted my claim, thinking I would get at least half back through pets best. I get an email stating it would take 5 days to process, well a month later and countless hours of sending paperwork and making calls to my vet then relaying info back to pets best, I still haven't received a dime! In addition to the $240 I spent on the actual vet visit, I've had the policy for 6 months which was another $250. I'm cancelling my policy. Seriously, this insurance is a joke! I would have made out better just creating a savings fund for my cat each year! I DO NOT Recommend this company! It's claims policy is bordering on FRAUD! There was no mention of paperwork nor 30 days needed when I signed up. If I didn't contact them I received no information. Fraud advertising, Fraud customer service 5 days turned into weeks. I’m out $500 and I have no product. I received no insurance from Pets Worst...Pets so called Best Insurance. This has been such a headache. Going back and forth between Vet and Pets Best. With no Satisfactory Resolution.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 22, 2019

Explanation of Ms. Claim Processing Complaint.
Ms. purchased an Accident & Illness policy, with a $250.00 deductible and 90% reimbursement, with an added Wellness rider, on March 11, 2019. On June 28, 2019, she brought her pet to her veterinarian for a Wellness exam. The pet was noted to have an ear infection at that time as well. Ms. submitted her claim on June 28, 2019.
Because this claim was both for a Wellness exam (covered under the Wellness rider) and an Illness (Otitis/ear infection), the claim was split on July 7, 2019. On July 8, 2019, Pets Best requested 12 months of medical records from *** for review. This review is necessary as the policy contains a Pre-existing Condition exclusion and no reimbursement is available for conditions that displayed signs or symptoms prior to policy inception or during an applicable waiting period. Otitis (ear infections) is a fairly common condition that is related to allergies. As a result, records are generally requested for review of the first claim to determine if the Pre-existing Condition exclusion applies.
Ms. inquired with Pets Best on July 15, 2019 to verify the records were received that day via email. In confirming receipt of records, a Customer Care agent advised the records would be reviewed and if all necessary information had been provided, the claim would be processed accordingly.
Review of these records showed a gap of three years where the pet had not been seen. Often this gap is due to the pet being seen at a different veterinarian whose records have not been submitted or obtained. Due to this gap in time (which is significant for a pet), the processor sent a request on July 16 (the next day) to contact Ms. to determine whether the pet had been seen elsewhere or if any additional records were available. Ms. responded to this email expressing frustration with the delay. Ms. called the next morning (July 17) to advise that she did not have the money for veterinarian visits during the three-year gap and did not take the pet for any examinations. She also noted that she adopted the pet in 2011 from ***. This information was added to her claim and relayed for processing.\
Ms. inquired on July 19 as to the status of her claim and demanded immediate processing. A customer care agent explained in detail why records were needed and how this impacted the processing time. Ms. chose to cancel her policy at that time and received a refund of $29.00. Cancellations do not impact the processing or outcome of any claims and Ms. claim was processed as normal on July 20, 2019. The complete records and information revealed that the claim was covered under the policy.
Ms. was reimbursed $45.00 for vaccinations under the Wellness rider. Under the Accident & Illness policy, as noted, there is a $250.00 deductible and, once satisfied, the policy reimburses 90% of covered expenses. Ms. Illness claim totaled $175.00 of which $76.35 was not covered as it related to vaccines and addressed in the Wellness portion of the claim. Of the remaining $88.79, $9.86 was Ms. co-pay amount and $88.79 was covered under the Policy. The $88.79 was applied toward the $250 deductible.
No Refund of Premiums Available.
Ms. policy was effective from March 12, 2019 through July 20, 2019 paid in monthly increments of $41.55. She received a refund of $29.00 upon cancellation. She requests a $240 refund for her claim. However, even if this full amount were covered under her policy, it would not exceed the $250.00 deductible. Additionally, only 90% of the $240.00 would apply toward the deductible. Unfortunately, no additional refund is available.
Specific Policy Provisions.
The Policy Ms. purchase addresses each of her concerns noted in her complaint:
1. Refunds are returned pro rata: Section 4(H).
2. Claims are Processed as Quickly as Possible: Section 6
3. We may require complete medical records: Section 6(C).
4. Co-insurance & Deductible: Section 7(A)-(B).
We advertise that most claims are processed in 5 days or less, which is true. However, they may be delayed when additional records are needed. As illustrated here, records were requested on July 8 but not obtained until July 15. Once complete records were obtained the claim was processed within five days.

Customer Response • Jul 23, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because:

because, I never would have started the policy had any of your response been noted when I started. It is still FRAUDULENT to send notifications about how easy your insurance is on claims, and how much better your life is with insurance only to find out your non listed policy takes weeks to process and the return on investment is little to none. I know the truth about your company now and will proceed to tell the online community since you insist on stealing from the public.

Sincerely

I have an indoor cat. I took her for a wellness check. She was fine, she just had a small ear infection. The total cost was $240 with her shots and medicine. Well, I submitted my claim, thinking I would get at least half back through pets best. I get an email stating it would take 5 days to process, well a month later and countless hours of sending paperwork and making calls to my vet then relaying info back to pets best, I still haven't received a dime! In addition to the $240 I spent on the actual vet visit, I've had the policy for 6 months which was another $250. I'm cancelling my policy. Seriously, this insurance is a joke! I would have made out better just creating a savings fund for my cat each year! I DO NOT Recommend this company! It's claims policy is bordering on FRAUD! There was no mention of paperwork nor 30 days needed when I signed up. If I didn't contact them I received no information. Fraud advertising, Fraud customer service 5 days turned into weeks. I’m out $500 and I have no product. I received no insurance from Pets Worst...Pets so called Best Insurance. This has been such a headache. Going back and forth between Vet and Pets Best. With no Satisfactory Resolution.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 22, 2019

Explanation of Ms. Claim Processing Complaint.
Ms. purchased an Accident & Illness policy, with a $250.00 deductible and 90% reimbursement, with an added Wellness rider, on March 11, 2019. On June 28, 2019, she brought her pet to her veterinarian for a Wellness exam. The pet was noted to have an ear infection at that time as well. Ms. submitted her claim on June 28, 2019.
Because this claim was both for a Wellness exam (covered under the Wellness rider) and an Illness (Otitis/ear infection), the claim was split on July 7, 2019. On July 8, 2019, Pets Best requested 12 months of medical records from *** for review. This review is necessary as the policy contains a Pre-existing Condition exclusion and no reimbursement is available for conditions that displayed signs or symptoms prior to policy inception or during an applicable waiting period. Otitis (ear infections) is a fairly common condition that is related to allergies. As a result, records are generally requested for review of the first claim to determine if the Pre-existing Condition exclusion applies.
Ms. inquired with Pets Best on July 15, 2019 to verify the records were received that day via email. In confirming receipt of records, a Customer Care agent advised the records would be reviewed and if all necessary information had been provided, the claim would be processed accordingly.
Review of these records showed a gap of three years where the pet had not been seen. Often this gap is due to the pet being seen at a different veterinarian whose records have not been submitted or obtained. Due to this gap in time (which is significant for a pet), the processor sent a request on July 16 (the next day) to contact Ms. to determine whether the pet had been seen elsewhere or if any additional records were available. Ms. responded to this email expressing frustration with the delay. Ms. called the next morning (July 17) to advise that she did not have the money for veterinarian visits during the three-year gap and did not take the pet for any examinations. She also noted that she adopted the pet in 2011 from ***. This information was added to her claim and relayed for processing.\
Ms. inquired on July 19 as to the status of her claim and demanded immediate processing. A customer care agent explained in detail why records were needed and how this impacted the processing time. Ms. chose to cancel her policy at that time and received a refund of $29.00. Cancellations do not impact the processing or outcome of any claims and Ms. claim was processed as normal on July 20, 2019. The complete records and information revealed that the claim was covered under the policy.
Ms. was reimbursed $45.00 for vaccinations under the Wellness rider. Under the Accident & Illness policy, as noted, there is a $250.00 deductible and, once satisfied, the policy reimburses 90% of covered expenses. Ms. Illness claim totaled $175.00 of which $76.35 was not covered as it related to vaccines and addressed in the Wellness portion of the claim. Of the remaining $88.79, $9.86 was Ms. co-pay amount and $88.79 was covered under the Policy. The $88.79 was applied toward the $250 deductible.
No Refund of Premiums Available.
Ms. policy was effective from March 12, 2019 through July 20, 2019 paid in monthly increments of $41.55. She received a refund of $29.00 upon cancellation. She requests a $240 refund for her claim. However, even if this full amount were covered under her policy, it would not exceed the $250.00 deductible. Additionally, only 90% of the $240.00 would apply toward the deductible. Unfortunately, no additional refund is available.
Specific Policy Provisions.
The Policy Ms. purchase addresses each of her concerns noted in her complaint:
1. Refunds are returned pro rata: Section 4(H).
2. Claims are Processed as Quickly as Possible: Section 6
3. We may require complete medical records: Section 6(C).
4. Co-insurance & Deductible: Section 7(A)-(B).
We advertise that most claims are processed in 5 days or less, which is true. However, they may be delayed when additional records are needed. As illustrated here, records were requested on July 8 but not obtained until July 15. Once complete records were obtained the claim was processed within five days.

Customer Response • Jul 23, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because:

because, I never would have started the policy had any of your response been noted when I started. It is still FRAUDULENT to send notifications about how easy your insurance is on claims, and how much better your life is with insurance only to find out your non listed policy takes weeks to process and the return on investment is little to none. I know the truth about your company now and will proceed to tell the online community since you insist on stealing from the public.

Sincerely

I had a problem with my bank. So my debit didn't go through they canceled my policy. I signed back up same dig now everything is a pre existing condition theydont want to cover it.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 30, 2019

Ms. original policy was cancelled for non-payment on 12/24/18. She purchased a new policy on February 27, 2019. Per the terms of the policy language, there was no continual coverage from the first to second policy. As a result, the Pre-existing Condition exclusion would exclude from coverage any Condition that was Present or had signs or symptoms prior to expiration of the applicable waiting periods of the second policy.

Ms. inquire about her claim on 7/17/19 and used explicit language when informed of this possibility. At her request, the policy was cancelled. Ms. complaint here is one dealing with the contractual terms of her policy and results of her own failure to read the terms and meet her payment responsibilities.

I had a problem with my bank. So my debit didn't go through they canceled my policy. I signed back up same dig now everything is a pre existing condition theydont want to cover it.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 30, 2019

Ms. original policy was cancelled for non-payment on 12/24/18. She purchased a new policy on February 27, 2019. Per the terms of the policy language, there was no continual coverage from the first to second policy. As a result, the Pre-existing Condition exclusion would exclude from coverage any Condition that was Present or had signs or symptoms prior to expiration of the applicable waiting periods of the second policy.

Ms. inquire about her claim on 7/17/19 and used explicit language when informed of this possibility. At her request, the policy was cancelled. Ms. complaint here is one dealing with the contractual terms of her policy and results of her own failure to read the terms and meet her payment responsibilities.

I had a problem with my bank. So my debit didn't go through they canceled my policy. I signed back up same dig now everything is a pre existing condition theydont want to cover it.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 30, 2019

Ms. original policy was cancelled for non-payment on 12/24/18. She purchased a new policy on February 27, 2019. Per the terms of the policy language, there was no continual coverage from the first to second policy. As a result, the Pre-existing Condition exclusion would exclude from coverage any Condition that was Present or had signs or symptoms prior to expiration of the applicable waiting periods of the second policy.

Ms. inquire about her claim on 7/17/19 and used explicit language when informed of this possibility. At her request, the policy was cancelled. Ms. complaint here is one dealing with the contractual terms of her policy and results of her own failure to read the terms and meet her payment responsibilities.

I had a problem with my bank. So my debit didn't go through they canceled my policy. I signed back up same dig now everything is a pre existing condition theydont want to cover it.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jul 30, 2019

Ms. original policy was cancelled for non-payment on 12/24/18. She purchased a new policy on February 27, 2019. Per the terms of the policy language, there was no continual coverage from the first to second policy. As a result, the Pre-existing Condition exclusion would exclude from coverage any Condition that was Present or had signs or symptoms prior to expiration of the applicable waiting periods of the second policy.

Ms. inquire about her claim on 7/17/19 and used explicit language when informed of this possibility. At her request, the policy was cancelled. Ms. complaint here is one dealing with the contractual terms of her policy and results of her own failure to read the terms and meet her payment responsibilities.

I recently submitted a claim because my dog has developed an issue with his back in the last couple of months. I sent Pet's Best everything they need and they denied the claim stating that my dog had this as a prior condition. Nowhere on any vet record does it state that my dog has had this prior. There is no proof and nothing noting this. I want the claim to be honored as it states I'm paying for illness and this is a new illness. This company is just ripping people off.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jun 20, 2019

This Policy was purchased on January 15, 2019 with illness coverage beginning January 29, 2019. Under the terms of the policy, “Pre-existing Conditions” are defined as: “Any condition for which a Veterinarian provided medical advice, the Pet received treatment for, or the Pet displayed signs or symptoms consistent with the stated Condition prior to the effective date of a Pet insurance policy (Policy Effective Date) or during any Waiting Period.”
Ms. contends “Nowhere on any vet record does it state that my dog has had this prior. There is no proof and nothing noting this.” However, the records obtained from *** dated April 27, 2019 show the following entry on page 1: “O stated p is uncomfortable when getting picked up O stated she thinks around the stoomach (sic) area. O stated it started around jan when p came back from groomers. P goes down the stairs hesitated but still jumps normal and jumps of (sic) the sofa all the time.” *** was diagnosed with IVDD on this date based in part on this record of ***’s symptoms. These symptoms are consistent with the diagnosed IVDD and the timeline places symptoms before illness coverage began. As a result, this condition was excluded as a “Pre-existing Condition.”
Upon review, January 29, 2019 was the date the coverage for illnesses began. No definitive date was given as to when *** was seen at the groomers. If this visit occurred on January 29, 2019, Ms. may submit a receipt and statement from her financial provider showing the date of this transaction for our additional review.
Ms. has expressed her belief that “This company is just ripping people off” both in the Revdex.com Complaint and similarly, albeit with much more colorful language, when she inquired with our customer care agent and was informed of why her claim was denied. Unfortunately, we are bound to make these determinations based on the medical records provided which, in this case, document symptoms before coverage was available.

Customer Response • Jun 21, 2019

Complaint: 13623154

I am rejecting this response because ... again, there was no prior condition for ***. ***'s condition is a new one which has never been treated for or discussed with any vet prior to when I took him in and he was diagnosed. I would like proof from them that his condition is prior and he already had that. Please provide.

Sincerely

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jun 21, 2019

Unfortunately, Ms.' rejection of our response simply restates the original complaint. We have already identified the records that reference ***'s symptoms. Ultimately, Ms. is taking issue with the terms of her policy which define and determine "Pre-existing Conditions" based on when the pet displayed signs or symptoms of the condition. This determination is not based on the date of diagnosis. ***'s symptoms are documented to have occurred prior to expiration of the waiting period in January.

*** Attachments Redacted by Revdex.com

Customer Response • Jun 26, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because: It's just not accurate. I won't go back and forth anymore. I have the required document from my vet and I will get another letter from my groomer that states *** has never exhibited any symptoms, nor pain, not anything related to his current illness. This illness is new as I have stated several times. ***'s last round of shots and checkups was in March and there was nothing happening at that time. If so, I would have told the vet and you'd have a record of that but it doesn't exist.

I will follow up with the appeal and submit documents there.

Sincerely

I recently submitted a claim because my dog has developed an issue with his back in the last couple of months. I sent Pet's Best everything they need and they denied the claim stating that my dog had this as a prior condition. Nowhere on any vet record does it state that my dog has had this prior. There is no proof and nothing noting this. I want the claim to be honored as it states I'm paying for illness and this is a new illness. This company is just ripping people off.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jun 20, 2019

This Policy was purchased on January 15, 2019 with illness coverage beginning January 29, 2019. Under the terms of the policy, “Pre-existing Conditions” are defined as: “Any condition for which a Veterinarian provided medical advice, the Pet received treatment for, or the Pet displayed signs or symptoms consistent with the stated Condition prior to the effective date of a Pet insurance policy (Policy Effective Date) or during any Waiting Period.”
Ms. contends “Nowhere on any vet record does it state that my dog has had this prior. There is no proof and nothing noting this.” However, the records obtained from *** dated April 27, 2019 show the following entry on page 1: “O stated p is uncomfortable when getting picked up O stated she thinks around the stoomach (sic) area. O stated it started around jan when p came back from groomers. P goes down the stairs hesitated but still jumps normal and jumps of (sic) the sofa all the time.” *** was diagnosed with IVDD on this date based in part on this record of ***’s symptoms. These symptoms are consistent with the diagnosed IVDD and the timeline places symptoms before illness coverage began. As a result, this condition was excluded as a “Pre-existing Condition.”
Upon review, January 29, 2019 was the date the coverage for illnesses began. No definitive date was given as to when *** was seen at the groomers. If this visit occurred on January 29, 2019, Ms. may submit a receipt and statement from her financial provider showing the date of this transaction for our additional review.
Ms. has expressed her belief that “This company is just ripping people off” both in the Revdex.com Complaint and similarly, albeit with much more colorful language, when she inquired with our customer care agent and was informed of why her claim was denied. Unfortunately, we are bound to make these determinations based on the medical records provided which, in this case, document symptoms before coverage was available.

Customer Response • Jun 21, 2019

Complaint: 13623154

I am rejecting this response because ... again, there was no prior condition for ***. ***'s condition is a new one which has never been treated for or discussed with any vet prior to when I took him in and he was diagnosed. I would like proof from them that his condition is prior and he already had that. Please provide.

Sincerely

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jun 21, 2019

Unfortunately, Ms.' rejection of our response simply restates the original complaint. We have already identified the records that reference ***'s symptoms. Ultimately, Ms. is taking issue with the terms of her policy which define and determine "Pre-existing Conditions" based on when the pet displayed signs or symptoms of the condition. This determination is not based on the date of diagnosis. ***'s symptoms are documented to have occurred prior to expiration of the waiting period in January.

*** Attachments Redacted by Revdex.com

Customer Response • Jun 26, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because: It's just not accurate. I won't go back and forth anymore. I have the required document from my vet and I will get another letter from my groomer that states *** has never exhibited any symptoms, nor pain, not anything related to his current illness. This illness is new as I have stated several times. ***'s last round of shots and checkups was in March and there was nothing happening at that time. If so, I would have told the vet and you'd have a record of that but it doesn't exist.

I will follow up with the appeal and submit documents there.

Sincerely

I recently submitted a claim because my dog has developed an issue with his back in the last couple of months. I sent Pet's Best everything they need and they denied the claim stating that my dog had this as a prior condition. Nowhere on any vet record does it state that my dog has had this prior. There is no proof and nothing noting this. I want the claim to be honored as it states I'm paying for illness and this is a new illness. This company is just ripping people off.

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jun 20, 2019

This Policy was purchased on January 15, 2019 with illness coverage beginning January 29, 2019. Under the terms of the policy, “Pre-existing Conditions” are defined as: “Any condition for which a Veterinarian provided medical advice, the Pet received treatment for, or the Pet displayed signs or symptoms consistent with the stated Condition prior to the effective date of a Pet insurance policy (Policy Effective Date) or during any Waiting Period.”
Ms. contends “Nowhere on any vet record does it state that my dog has had this prior. There is no proof and nothing noting this.” However, the records obtained from *** dated April 27, 2019 show the following entry on page 1: “O stated p is uncomfortable when getting picked up O stated she thinks around the stoomach (sic) area. O stated it started around jan when p came back from groomers. P goes down the stairs hesitated but still jumps normal and jumps of (sic) the sofa all the time.” *** was diagnosed with IVDD on this date based in part on this record of ***’s symptoms. These symptoms are consistent with the diagnosed IVDD and the timeline places symptoms before illness coverage began. As a result, this condition was excluded as a “Pre-existing Condition.”
Upon review, January 29, 2019 was the date the coverage for illnesses began. No definitive date was given as to when *** was seen at the groomers. If this visit occurred on January 29, 2019, Ms. may submit a receipt and statement from her financial provider showing the date of this transaction for our additional review.
Ms. has expressed her belief that “This company is just ripping people off” both in the Revdex.com Complaint and similarly, albeit with much more colorful language, when she inquired with our customer care agent and was informed of why her claim was denied. Unfortunately, we are bound to make these determinations based on the medical records provided which, in this case, document symptoms before coverage was available.

Customer Response • Jun 21, 2019

Complaint: 13623154

I am rejecting this response because ... again, there was no prior condition for ***. ***'s condition is a new one which has never been treated for or discussed with any vet prior to when I took him in and he was diagnosed. I would like proof from them that his condition is prior and he already had that. Please provide.

Sincerely

Pet's Best Insurance Services Response • Jun 21, 2019

Unfortunately, Ms.' rejection of our response simply restates the original complaint. We have already identified the records that reference ***'s symptoms. Ultimately, Ms. is taking issue with the terms of her policy which define and determine "Pre-existing Conditions" based on when the pet displayed signs or symptoms of the condition. This determination is not based on the date of diagnosis. ***'s symptoms are documented to have occurred prior to expiration of the waiting period in January.

*** Attachments Redacted by Revdex.com

Customer Response • Jun 26, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because: It's just not accurate. I won't go back and forth anymore. I have the required document from my vet and I will get another letter from my groomer that states *** has never exhibited any symptoms, nor pain, not anything related to his current illness. This illness is new as I have stated several times. ***'s last round of shots and checkups was in March and there was nothing happening at that time. If so, I would have told the vet and you'd have a record of that but it doesn't exist.

I will follow up with the appeal and submit documents there.

Sincerely

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