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Lion Home Service

4600 Innovation Dr Ste 102, Fort Collins, Colorado, United States, 80525-3437

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I originally called Lion Home Service on 1/15/19 to have a plumber out to my home to inspect and repair a leaking pipe in my bathroom ceiling. That same day, Jacob S arrived and I described the problem to him. I explained there was a leak in a pipe in the bathroom ceiling and asked if they could replace the leaking pipe. The pipe was exposed so he could see where it was leaking. Instead of quoting me for replacing the pipe, he was certain it was caused by a clog somewhere in the pipe. He drew up a quote for two services: one was to inspect the inside of the pipe with his camera, the second was to remove a clog. The total for the two services came to $711. I felt this was an extremely high price but paid for the services because he felt this would solve the problem. He brought in another associate who removed my upstairs toilet and inserted a tool that would clear any clogs. At the end of this work, which took maybe an hour at most, the associate with the tool (Ben) couldn't tell me if he cleared any clog and left for the night. Jacob returned in the morning to attempt to use his camera but said he couldn't complete this without more drywall being removed in the wall next to the leaking pipe. He also informed me that he would be charging me more to continue his work, even though his original job hadn't been completed. Over the next week and a half, I was unable to reach Jacob to schedule a follow-up appointment. After two weeks of no response from Jacob, I called Lion Home Services, explained the situation, and asked for a manager, and was directed to Rob H (unsure of last name spelling). On 1/31 and 2/2, I spoke with two different receptionists who said they would have Rob call me back about this unresolved matter. I called a third time on 1/4 and spoke to another receptionist who connected me with Rob on the phone (the previous two receptionists would not give me his number or voicemail). He told me the first two hadn't delivered the message and was completely unaware of the problem. For the third time, I explained the issue. He explained to me that Jacob, who had been recently terminated after I had worked with him, could have easily called Rob to use Rob's infrared camera (to avoid all the work that was previously done), but Jacob had not. We set an appointment for 2/6 but I had to cancel. I called 2/7 and rescheduled for the morning of 2/11. The morning of 2/11 went by and nobody showed, and I called in the afternoon that day to cancel and asked them not to come to my home, as I have lost any trust in this company and do not want to continue doing business with them.

Overall, the problem involves work that was performed and not completed, with no follow-up from the company, calls that I made to a manager that did not get to said manager, and the fact that the original work didn't need to have been performed if there was a much easier and cheaper solution (the infrared camera as opposed to the toilet removal/equipment usage totaling $711). This appears to be consistent with other complaints that customers have had about the same plumber/similar circumstances.

Lion Home Service Response • Feb 13, 2019

We had 2 appointments scheduled to come out to Mr. home to look at the line with our infrared camera. On both occasions, Mr. cancelled.

We have issued him a full refund in the amount of $711.00 which will be mailed out today. (Check #***.)

Don't trust them!!!!
We will not now, or ever again, use their services. On Monday, January 7, Jacob S came to our house to investigate the cause of a water leak in our basement.
He informed us that we had issues with our sewer line and convinced us that there was major work that needed to be done to remedy the issues. We put $14,000 on a credit card to pay for half of the work.
The next day, we contacted the city of ***. In October, they had videotaped our sewer line, tap, and saddle. They saw no, I repeat, no issues with it. We then hired two independent sewer line companies to inspect our building drain and the sewer line.
Neither company saw any issues with the system. I repeat, no issues. We personally watched the cameras as they inspected the line. We ran water through the line, assured that the camera was at the correct location to view the tap and the saddle and there were NO issues. We have written reports stating that there are no issues.
Jacob had not even marked the spot correctly where the tap is and had the depth wrong as well. He told us that the city would not take care of any issues with the tap. That is false. I have spoken to the city numerous times since the 7th.
Jacob sent us an invoice totaling $35,000 dollars to repair something that has no need of repair. This is fraudulent practice and quite frankly, unconscionable. We trusted him, even fed him some dinner, only to find out that we were being totally scammed.
On January 8, I texted him to do nothing until he heard from me, but on January 9th, he went to the city to pull a permit for a sewer line. I have contacted the city and have withdrawn that permit and any others he may have pulled. I understand that he paid $274.75 for this. I also know that he can get a refund for that amount.
I had a reputable plumber come and he fixed the source of the leak, which was simply a pipe that was behind the cabinet that had become defective.
We were also told that the interior pipe that ran from the sink was not at a proper slope. That is false, as well. Lies, lies, and more lies.
We had trusted your company before this attempted scam. That, of course, is no longer the case, and we will never, ever use this company again. Now, we will never know what other scams were perpetrated on us for work they had done previously.

Lion Home Service Response • Jan 14, 2019

I think there is miscommunication happening. In an effort to not have multiple versions of stories on multiple review sites and additional miscommunication. We will speak with you directly and not respond in detail here, but we will get this resolved.

After a water leak in our basement, this company told us that we had an issue with our sewer main line and pressured us to pay an extreme amount of money to repair it. We have since called 2 independent companies who have provided written verification that there is absolutely nothing wrong with ours sewer line, or our building drain (which this company also told us should be replaced at an added cost). I have personally seen both inspections done by these two independent sewer line repair men and seen with my own eyes that there is no issue with either lines. The main plumber from Lion has lied to us about time he has spent pulling permits, even after we told him to do no work for us at all. They fraudulently represented a problem that doesn't exist. We are waiting to get the refund for the payment that we initially put down. We have called twice and have been assured that they have issued the refund, but it has not yet appeared on our credit card statement.

Lion Home Service Response • Jan 16, 2019

I have attached a copy of Transaction Successfully Refunded form which was done on 1/18/19 in the amount of $14,000.00. This was refunded to the client’s credit card the day it was requested.

I have also attached an email from our Project Manager, Jacob S to ***. When he cameraed their water line, he not only found a break in the line under their yard, he also found a 10" section that was completely submerged under water. I have attached pictures of the offset in the line which is blocking the flow. Jacob offered to come back out and re-camera the line and send the video to their insurance company.

The bid he gave them was per their instructions that they wanted the issue repaired as well as a preventative solution which he gave them.

We stand behind our employee and his integrity. He did not lie or commit fraud. He offered them a permanent solution to their problem.

Customer Response • Jan 16, 2019

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because: we had 2 independent companies come to check our building drain and our sewer line. We watched the camera with both companies while they inspected our lines. We ran water and watched it flow unimpeded through the entire system. There was not a break in the line whatsoever. There was no part of the line submerged under water.

We talked to the city, who had inspected the tap and the saddle in October 2018. No issues were found. Jacob told us that the tap and saddle were not good. Jacob purported that the PVC pipe was a substandard pipe that was not strong enough and was common in houses built in the era. He said in areas it was oval shaped and had cracked in another place and that the pipe was white.

The PVC pipe is actually green, is in fine condition, which we witnessed with our own eyes both times. So, it is not white, it is not broken or damaged in any way, and no part is under water.

After telling him on 1/8/19 to do nothing until he heard from me, he went to the city and pulled a sewer line permit. We have written reports from both companies that state unequivocally that Jacob was lying about the condition of these lines.

Since there is NO issue with our building drain, nor our sewer line, there was NOTHING that needed to be done to either, especially to the tune of $35,000. Our water leak came from a faulty slip-joint on the connection to the laundry room sink. A simple fix.

We did not have a main line back-up or problem with the sewer line or building drain. Jacob tried to convince us that since we had a sewer line issue, which we did not, that we should have the building drain replaced, as well. He did say it was preventative and we should do it all at once, because doing it later would be more expensive. BUT, the building drain is just fine, as well, and both companies said it should last for years to come with no issues.

At the time he told us this, we believed him. We had had a water leak and trusted him to tell us what needed to be done. Of course, IF, IF there had been an issue with either of these, we wanted it fixed.

BUT, that was false. A lie. We know now, with complete certainty, that we DID NOT and DO NOT have ANY issues with those two lines. Why would anyone pay $35,000 for something that had NO need of repair?

The plumber who fixed the source of the leak - the slip-joint connection in the sink, also stated that main-line issues always leave debris in the floor drain and basement shower drains. We had NO debris in either place. So, this leak was NOT due to a sewer line issue.

Thank goodness that we talked to the city and had 2 independent companies come to check out our lines. We saw with our own eyes that the lines are FINE. After talking to the city, I requested a refund for the downpayment of $14,000. The company did issue the refund.

Jacob's report was a lie and this a fraudulent business practice.

Regards

Lion Home Service Response • Jan 29, 2019

After reading Ms. response, we are not sure what else she is wanting from us. As I mentioned in my previous response, we would be happy to re-camera the line to show her what we found. We want to reach resolution but are not sure how to proceed. We gave her money back the day she requested it.

We are a commercial property and they take take care us every time

Lion Home Service Response • Jan 04, 2019

Thank you so much ***!

The guys that helped us were wonderful. We still need the pipe that hooks up to the exhaust to the water heater that was suppose to been brought by the next day. But I'm sure everyobe has been busy.

Lion Home Service Response • Dec 28, 2018

Thank you ***. I hope Chuck was able to get that pipe hooked up for you today. Thank you so much for your review.

GREAT service & people. Always professional!!!

Lion Home Service Response • Dec 21, 2018

Thank you so much! Its our pleasure!

They came out for an emergency call on Sunday. Very helpful and professional.

Lion Home Service Response • Dec 12, 2018

Thank you! We are here anytime you need us.

At the beginning of august 2018 my power went out so I called a 24 electriction to fix my power. lion home service came out and got my power going and charged me almost 600 dollers. within a week the power went out again so I called them back out. they told me that the breaker box needed changed and they would deduct the cost of the first job they did. they replaced the breaker box and left my garage wiring out. when the state came out they red flagged my power. the state said that all the wiring needed redone under gound and to the box. I was quoted a price of 2500.00. during this time I was very sick and still working and would have to leave to meet up with lions. once I had to leave to meet up with a officer because lions let my dogs out. they put in another new box and put my wiring underground. lions would hot wire my electric until the state could come out. lions would come out before the state would show up and take the hotwire off so the state wouldnt see it. the state came out and once again I was red flagged because they couldnt see the inside of the house. I was not aware that someone need to let the state inside and some things needed fix. lions came out and hotwired it again. and it took a few more days to fix some more things. once again lions came out to take the hotwire off before the state came out. the state had a list of things that needed fixed but he would give the okay that power be turned on. lions didnt know when *** could come out to hook up the power so they hotwired it again. the next day *** came out before lions could take the hothire off. *** said that it was very illigel and unsafe for using a hotwire. lions came out and fixed they things the state said to fix. I went to the hospital and when I got out the yard was a mess from when they dug the ground up for the wiring. I called lions out about the mess they left. I also stated getting calls from wells *** for a loan that lions took out in my name. I asked lions for a invoice and they have never gave me one and said they dont do that. I have never seen a contract with them or a invoice. I was charged all most 11300.00 for a job that was only to be around 2500.00 and took over a month to get done. I never signed anything that I can remember or havent seen anything. lions knew that I was very sick and I feel that they took advantage of me trying to work and stay alive from lung cancer. I had a gentlman from *** electric the owner *** came out to the house and said that it should have costed around 3500.00 and the job lions did looked very unprofessionaland would have only taken two days at the most. when I spoke with a laywer *** he said that it looked like fraud and to file a complaint.

Lion Home Service Response • Dec 17, 2018

Thank you for your feedback! We always appreciate the opportunity to learn from experiences as we grow and improve. According to the documentation attached the jobs and costs were pre-approved before work was started. A discount in the amount of $600.00 was attached to the job on August 30th to eliminate the cost of the previous jobs. All invoices were signed including the *** documents

With this being said we would like to come to a resolution and would like to know how we can best help you to feel confident about your decision to choose Lion Home Service to resolve your electrical issues at your home.
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Customer Response • Dec 23, 2018

Complaint: ***

I am rejecting this response because: I have never received a bill or a written quote. had to take off work repeatedly. let my dogs out and had to meet up with a sheriff to pick them up. took over a month and a half to finish job that looks very unprofessional. I always had to call to find out was going on because they wouldn't call me. I seen no contract and I only signed one thing and that was when lions came out the very first time in august. they charged me 11300.00 for a job that was quoted me 2500 by a handshake. they somehow got a loan from wells *** for the work done. I had a 2 reputable electricians give me a quote of around 3500.00 and be done in less than two days complete. I do not know why I have to pay for lions mistakes. I feel they took advanged of me because they knew I was deathy sick and they signed for things I didn't approve of. they are scammers and should not get away with ripping sick people off.

Regards

Lion Home Service Response • Jan 09, 2019

First of all, we are very sorry to hear of Mr.’s health issues. Our Project Manager said he had mentioned he was not well but since he was working, was not aware of what his health issues were. We would never, nor have we ever taken advantage of any of our valued clients health issues. As a service company, our job is to service our clients and not get involved in their personal issues.We had to excavate approximately 60 feet around the home for the electrical conduit, performed the electrical work and backfill the area. This was a very complex job and we are at the discretion of the State (DORA) and *** for scheduling which poses some challenges.We gave Mr. the pricing upfront and as you will see by the attached invoice, Mr. signed the authorization.We could not, and did not take a loan out in Mr.’s name. I have attached the *** Invoice showing that it was signed by Mr..We previously sent Mr. copies of the invoices. I have mailed copies again to him today for his records.

The following is the chronological order of all action taken for this job:8/3/18 – Client called stating they had a partial power loss to home. Our Master Electrician replaced the breaker and put new tape on the wires. He advised Mr. that the cable was in poor shape and might need to be replaced. There is a 3-year warranty on the breaker, no warranty on the wire tape.8/12/18 – Client had a partial power loss in home again but it came back on again. Mr. was given upfront pricing to replace his disconnect. He was asked to call the power company and set up a power shut down to replace the disconnect.8/14/18 – Mr. called us to advise the City would be out 8/15 to turn off the power.8/15/18 – The disconnect was replaced. We suggested our Project Manager come out to give Mr. an estimate on electrical repairs as the City inspector said they would not pass the home due to work done previous to our work.8/21/18 – We had DORA inspect the premises before we started work. Their findings were:Service is unsafe and should not be energized - Red tagScope of work on permit is incomplete -1)Replace SEU riser cable with approved riser conduit2)Replace meter housing3)Replace unlawfully-installed underground4)Remove 10/3 UF cable with EMT riser5)Missing bushing on offset nipple$50.00 reinspection fee required8/22/18 – Our Project Manager gave Mr. an estimate for excavation and repair to bring his home up to code.8/30/18 – The work was done and the inspection was scheduled. The inspection has to be signed off before the trench can be filled. We gave Mr. a refund of $600.00 for the work previously done.8/31/18 – *** inspected work9/4/18 – DORA performed an inspection but was unable to complete due to not having access to the home9/10/18 - DORA inspected the job and listed several inspection corrections. Corrections were made and inspection was scheduled9/18/18 – Our Master Electrician was onsite waiting for *** to show up which they never did so we put in temporary power overnight so the client would have power. DORA inspected corrections9/20/8 – DORA closed the job – inspection passed10/2/18 – Fixed trench per client’s requestWe cannot answer to the quotes provided by other companies as we don’t know what the $2,500.00 and $3,500.00 was for. We do provide permanent solutions, not temporary fixes. The work that we performed has resolved Mr.’s electrical issues. We are willing to give Mr. a 10% discount for the delays in this job caused by scheduling issues in the amount of $1,127.35.

Great service, a bit pricey...

Lion Home Service Response • Nov 23, 2018

Thank you

Technician was friendly and responsive. Somewhat agree with another review (below), however, from a "Greg L" that service is pricey, especially since we had invested in the service contract for 3 years. We had to pay additional money also (over $300) for a simple condensing unit wash, cleaning & sanitizing, etc. Our "member savings" was only $54.65. Our tech was fine for the task, but it was certainly something we could have done ourselves in the long run. I understand the "discounts", etc., and the access to 24-hour service, and some other benefits, but still, a little pricey to have a service contract and not get more benefits in these inspections. The "Mr. Sparky" inspection was free, fortunately, but was not necessary for us. The tech spent about 10 minutes looking at smoke detectors for the "green" light, at Carbon Monoxide detectors, and checking a few outlets for voltage. My husband is a retired electrical engineer and thought this rather humorous, so we chalked it up to a "courtesy call" only. It did not provide any additional knowledge for us, and we won't have the "Mr. Sparky" call again. Just not needed for us.

Lion Home Service Response • Nov 14, 2018

Thank you for taking the time to give feedback from your experience. Im sorry the membership wasnt explained to you better. You get all your major home systems checked and tuned-up every year; which helps them run more efficiently and extend the lifetime of your units. Plus, Personal Account Manager, Priority Scheduling, No Dispatch Fee, 24 Hour Service, 15% Discounts and $3,700 in Money Saving Coupons. You can use the coupons with your 15% discount to get even more money saving opportunities.
Yes, we do charge more than some other companies in the area, and not as much as others. We learned long ago that it is far better to offer a more expensive, quality service and explain our pricing every once in awhile than to skimp and give poor quality to our clients. Not all homeowners check their smoke alarms or carbon monoxide detectors on a regular basis. While it may seem silly to have an electrical check up done on your house. It can in fact save lives. I apologize if the technician did not go over his findings or explain what he was doing and why. When someone chooses Lion Home Service to fix their problem, they can rest assured in knowing we cared about the details.

Excellent service
Very personable and professional

Lion Home Service Response • Oct 25, 2018

Thank you so much ***!

Technician came in for annual service on my Air Conditioner system. Basically, the only thing he did under the membership we paid for was change the filter and check a couple of temps on the system (I could do that). He didn't open the duct and look at the coils in the supply duct like I used to have done at my previous home. He then informed us the vents on the compressor outside needed cleaning and charged us $185 for each one (we have two HVAC systems).
All in all, Lion Home Service seems very expensive, and I don't see any benefit of the membership to the home owner other than get a small deduction for services. Seems more a method of getting their foot in the door, so they can find other items to charge us.

Lion Home Service Response • Oct 18, 2018

Thank you so much for taking the time to write us a review. Your feedback is valuable for us to improve our service and to make sure we deliver you the best service and experience. Im sorry the membership wasnt explained to you better. You get all your major home systems checked and tuned-up every year; which helps them run more efficiently and extend the lifetime of your units. Plus, Personal Account Manager, Priority Scheduling, No Dispatch Fee, 24 Hour Service, 15% Discounts and $3,700 in Money Saving Coupons. You can protect your investments and have piece of mind of knowing you have Lion Home Service behind you when something happens.

Really glad we found you. Looking forward to doing business with Lion in the future, very pleased with your work.

Lion Home Service Response • Oct 18, 2018

Thank you! Its our pleasure

On 07/31/2018 a tech came to my home to service the hot water heater for any debris on bottom of tank. He did not drain the heater completely as has been done in the past and just pumped a lever at top. The entire time he was doing this the water was never cloudy, no debris but was perfectly clear water. I questioned him about why he was not draining it completely and in essence said he had been doing this for 40 years and would stir up debris and get it out. Again, I saw no evidence of any debris and since it had been two years since this was checked, I think there should be something.

I also wanted a water leak alert installed on the hot water heater. He had a device in a package which he placed a 9 volt battery in and placed in on the floor by hot water heater. I was charged $139.00 for this. The day later I called and spoke with accounting person questioning why this cost me $139.00 since I had checked on prices of these devices and the most expensive was $19.99. He said this was because a technician did it and was guaranteed. How does he even know the device works unless there is a leak of the hot water heater, so how can it be guaranteed. Their service call fee of $29.99 for hot water heater had been waived because I am a member of a Gold Plan through *** and this plan had included this company where they would check my plumbing free of charge. Now my question/problem is why I was charged this excessive amount. If they want to charge the $29.99 service call (because a technician brought it to me) and the highest price for the device of $19.99, this only comes to about $50.00 and I believe they owe me money back on this. I have also called twice for a copy of work that was done and to date have not received this in the US mail.

I am older and disabled and friends have to take me to stores, doctors, etc., so I do not have the ability to drive around for an item like this. Is this how this company takes advantage of older, disabled people by charging them such an excessive amount for an approximate $20 item and use the excuse that a technician did it.

Customer Response • Aug 13, 2018

I am dissatisfied with the leak alert product and how this was handled

Lion Home Service Response • Aug 28, 2018

We apologize for less than satisfactory service call Ms. received.

We are mailing her a full refund in the amount of $139.00 today, check #

Customer Response • Aug 29, 2018

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I have reviewed the response made by the business, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.

Regards

Work was done in a timely and efficient manner once proper materials were onsite. Technician was professional. Estimate and final pricing was higher than anticipated based on cost projections available on internet.

Lion Home Service Response • Oct 18, 2018

Thank you for your review. Yes, we do charge more than some other companies in the area, and not as much as others. We make no apologies for our pricing. We learned long ago that it is far better to offer a more expensive, quality service and explain our pricing every once in awhile than to skimp and give poor quality to our clients. When someone chooses Lion Home Service to fix their problem, they can rest assured in knowing we cared about the details.

We had a contract with this company to do a yearly water heater service. When called they came out to complete this service and charged a flat fee for items that should have been charged at cost of parts. There was also to be a discount and rather than computed as a discount it was added to the cost. When I gave them and unsatisfactory review the manager caught the error and was to send a check for the discount. It should have been double the amount due to it being charged rather than a discount. When this was brought to his attention was going to get the accounting dept. to correct it and send another check. I have contacted him a number of times and have not received and results. This has been going on from April of this year.

Lion Home Service Response • Jul 30, 2018

We did agree to refund $130.00 and apologize that it was not done in a timely manner.

We mailed check #*** dated 7/27/18 in the amount of $130.00 today to ***.

Mr. Sparky Electric was recently bought out by Lion Home Service. I had 2 lights connected to a 3way switch and asked that 1 switch work one light and the other switch work the other light. I explained this to the customer service agent and set up an appointment for a quote on the following Saturday. I asked if the tech could also do the work and she replied that the tech would supply me with straight forward pricing. If I wanted the work done, he would complete it that day or if not, I would be charged a trip fee. That Saturday the tech came but did not have the proper tools to complete the job. He arranged to come back a couple of different times but finally settled on the following Thursday, late in the evening after I came home from work. Only this time he was unable to figure out how to wire it so that it would work properly. A 3rd appointment was needed, and the tech planned to bring a 2nd tech/master electrician to help. He stated that he made notes in the system so that I would receive a discount to ensure I was happy. I waited for someone to call me to set an appointment to finish the work, but no one did. I called the customer service office and asked for another Saturday appointment. I was told that the “Master Electrician did not work on Saturdays” and that “Saturday appointments were for emergencies only.” I thought that was odd since my initial appointment was on a Saturday. I asked 2 times to speak with a supervisor and was told that they could only page him through their internal system and that I would have to wait for the supervisor to call me. No one called. Finally, I asked a family member, who had a weekday off, to come over so that a weekday appointment could be made to finish the work. Then at the time of payment, I had to ask for the discount I was already promised only to be told that “the system would only allow a $40 coupon (approx. 5% off).” I was later told, by a different electrician, that this should have been only a couple hours work and should have been completed same day.

Lion Home Service Response • Jun 18, 2018

Our Service Manager, Rob Heavilin has left several messages for Ms. to resolve this issue. As soon as we are able to reach her, we will respond back to you on the status of this complaint.

Lion Home Service Response • Jun 25, 2018

Hi ***,I just wanted to advise you that after leaving several messages, we did hear back from *** today. We agreed to refund her $300.00 which was done today by a credit card transaction. We did let her know it may take a day or two for this transaction to be processed through our credit card company and then hers.Thank you.-- Cindy W

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