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This place is really a joke..So going through child custody and before reading any of the reviews I turn to about the children assuming that they were problem a great company from they way the experience was when I had my initial consult and the way the program was explained to me I was pleased. After time never able to reach anyone as I would call and never getting returned calls. I would get emails with questions and what I would like to be put in my modification orders. Then after that I would receive a rough draft to start the process. I did receive my rough draft as was not pleased. Sounded as if it was written up by a two year old also the way the papers were they were not accurate. so I was able to make contact and they claimed they would do more work to it them send me a second rough draft to go over. At the point never received a second rough draft and any and all phone calls and emails were never returned but yet they were still pulling the 25 doller monthly fee from my bank account. today on there own time calling me say I owe them 490. and I need to pay or it will be sent to collection.That I signed a contact stating I would have to pay it. I have never signed anything other then a receipt for a payment I made. I really believe this is a scam and if not they are for sure suckers and good for nothing.
I applied for their help online and got a call back within minutes, they are rather fast about that. After been offered the best care I caved and gave my information, I was really desperate and in need of legal aid.
After signing up for their services, the payment had gone through my bank 10 minutes later and all I had was a claim that they had tried to contact me through the phone and left a voice mail, none of it true.
I'm not sure if their services are real, since I was with them for about a day. But after you make the payment, they seem to disappear. All their numbers end up in voice mails and they seem to never check them.
I finally got a hold of someone through the phone listed on here and was able to cancel the service, the payment is still pending on my bank but they told me all sales are final so no refund, big surprise there, not even 12 hours later and I cant get my money back.
But like I said, I have no idea if their help is any good, my experience with them was less than 12 hours and trying to get a refund is impossible. Really sad since most of us parents in such situations are really desperate and just trying to get some help and these people seem to take advantage of it.
Review: I have custody of my child and was told I needed to get it on paper in case the father took him out of town against my will. I contacted ATC and was totally confused but I thought I understood that I would only be charged $98.00 and they would prepare the forms for me. And if it took longer than a month I would be charged an additional $25.00. That was on March 17th. I received an email and clicked on all the pages and never saw anything that was for my situation. It was all about the father or grandparents and stuff. I have not received any documents filled out from ATC or anything. I requested a refund because they were not helping me. Also they sent me an additional fee charge of $590.00. I talked to these people on the phone but I don't understand really what they were telling me I just agreed because I thought they were helping me. I feel they mislead me in telephone conversations and online emails. I have my mother helping me now.Desired Settlement: I would like my $98.00 back as I have not been helped. I need this money so my mother can help me get the forms that I need and get my case in to the Child Services in St. Louis missouri. I cannot afford to loose $98.00 my bank account as of today is negative balance.
Business
Response:
As owner
of ATC, I find it offensive that Ms [redacted] would make this unmerited complaint
with the Revdex.com. Ms [redacted]’s words “I was totally confused but I thought i
understood…” and that “they misled me” are not sufficient to merit her
obtaining a refund. If we had misled her, that would be a totally different story
– she would obtain a refund!). ------ The fact is that after her enrolling with
our services, she received a SAMEDAY Courtesy Call confirming our services and
fees. She later logged on to our Member-only website and electronically
accepting our “Terms and Conditions”… She was not confused when she called us
the NEXT DAY and we (due to her financial situation) qualified her for our financial
hardship fee of $590. ------ Before I provide the facts of what occurred, I
would like to confirm this: I PROMISE THE FOLLOWING::: --- As our record
confirms, I have been affiliated with the Santa Barbara Revdex.com for nearly 13 years
(since 2001) - ATC has helped thousands of parents. Oftentimes people will do
anything - lie, (even lose their memory), in an attempt get collect a refund –
this is just a reality of human behavior. I promise that any member who has a
merited issue with ATC, if we are in error, will receive a partial or FULL
REFUND – period. ----- With that said, here is the truth of what occurred with Ms
[redacted]::: ----- Ms [redacted] enrolled for our services on 3/17/15 and received a
courtesy (welcome) call within an hour. This 2nd call to member is to specifically
confirm our services, fees, and refund policy and Ms [redacted] was instructed to
log-on to our Website, read and accept our Terms & Conditions (T&C,),
complete her website activity, and then call her Family Service Rep… ---- That
same day, Ms [redacted] logged on to our member site and electronically accepted
our Terms and Conditions and completed her online activity. It is a requirement that everyone that
enrolls with our service must read and accept these T&C (which clearly
states in writing, what they were told verbally – including our fees, refund
policy, and that we only prepare court documents…) BEFORE they can proceed to
use our services. ----- FOR THE RECORD, here is an unaltered section of the
T&C that Ms [redacted] read and accepted::: (section B) Legal Document Preparation Service Fees – If you want ATC, LLC to assist you with the
preparation of your legal documents, you will be charged a maximum fee of $990.00.
This amount may be lowered depending on your financial situation (discuss with
your Customer Service Representative). This is a one-time only charge.
Financing may be available according to a plan approved by ATC, LLC. Please ask
your Customer Service Representative for information regarding what options may
be available to you. Your fees for Legal Document Preparation do not include
any court filing fees or the costs of any legal process or other document
filing service…. - - - - - The following day, 3/18/15 at 11:56am Ms [redacted] spoke
with a Family Service Rep and due to her lack of finances, WAS QUALIFIED for a
Financial Hardship fee of $590 – a $400 discount!. THIRTEEN DAYS LATER, on
3/31/15, Ms [redacted] sent an email requesting a refund. We attempted to call Ms
[redacted], but her line picked up, but disconnected without allowing us to leave
a voice message (we sent an email informing her of this malfunction, and that
no refund was in order… in that same email, we asked Ms [redacted] to call us if
she had any questions). Additionally, we emailed Ms [redacted] a copy of the
T&C she had accepted. Ms [redacted] never called us back, but instead filed a
complaint with the Revdex.com. For the above reasons, no refund is due to Ms [redacted].
We truly wish her the best of success. Sincerely, [redacted] ATC, LLC
Review: On their web sight and on the phone they said they could help me with my child custody issues, when I paid them they gave me a adviser to talk to and he told me they "could NOT help me" with my secondary issue. I feel I have been sold a bill of goods and then given a completely opposite item! I feel this scam they are running fits in with Bait & Switch laws of selling services or goods!! When I told them I feel I was scammed I was talked to as if I was a little child and then was told they never said they could help me with my secondary issue - WOW how is this company not been sued and put out of business - oh that's right they prey on the poor and less fortunate who turn to them as a last hope and prayer and they cheat and lie to them to take their money!!!!!Desired Settlement: all my funds returned 98.00 - plus compensation for the time I lost 250.00
Review: tTHE WEBSITE POORLY PORTRAYS THE CUSTOMER SVC. THEY WERE AWEFUL. EVERYTIME I CALLED IN I GOT VOICEMAIL & THEY STATE A CALL BACK WLD HAPPEN IN 24 HOURS. IN MY CASE HALF THE TIME I HAD TO CALL SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE I WLD GET A RESPONSE, EACH TIME SPEAKING TO SOMEONE NEW. HAVING TOO MANY HANDS IN THE SAME COOKIE JAT IS NOT GOOD BUSINESS BECAUSE THINGS GET MIXED UP. I NEVER KNEW WHO MY REPRESENTATIVE WAS BECAUSE OF THIS. I SUBMITTED QUESTIONAIRE ONLINE AND STILL GOT CALLED TO ANSWER SAME QUESTIONS ALL OVER AGAIN. WHATS THE POINT OF THE QUESTIONAIRE? OR I'D GET A CALL ASKING A QUESTION, ID CALL BAK GET VOICEMAIL, LV MY ANSWER AND THEN GET A CALLBACK FROM SOMEONE DIFF AGAIN ASKING THE SAME QUESTION I ALREADY ANSWERED. MOST REPS WERE ALSO VERY RUDE AND MADE THE EXPERIENCE VERY HARD TO DEAL WITH AN ALREADY STRESSFUL SITUATION. I WAS TRYING TO BE CLEAR WITH MY CHANGES CONSIDERING IT HAD TAKEN 2-3 ATTEMPTS PRIOR AND APPARENTLY THEY DIDNT UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY KEPT MAKING CHANGES I DIDN'T ASK FOR SO I MARKED MY CHANGES AND ONE REP IN PARTICULAR (D[redacted]) CAME BACK WITH "Just state what paragraph needs to be changed and state change this xxxxx to that zzzzzz. Leave out all the rest - just change what to what." tHIS WAS VERY SARCASTIC TO ME SO I LET HER KNOW THEN SHE STATED "No, there was nothing sarcastic about it. " THAT IS NOT PROFESSIONAL AT ALL! AFTER I GOT THE FINAL PAPERS I WAS THEN TOLD BY 2 DIFF ATTORNEYS THAT THE PAPERS WERE USELESS DUE TO MY SONS AGE AND I WOULD GET ATE UP IN THE COURT ROOM. SO ALL THE MONEY I SPENT HAS BEEN WASTED!! I AM LIVID!!! I IMMEDIATELY CANCELLED MY MEMBERSHIP.Desired Settlement: I WANT EVERY DIME I PAID BACK CUZ I CANNOT USE WHAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED TO ME & CUZ THE EXPERIENCE WAS HORRIBLE ALL AROUND. IF MY EXPE. WAS HORRIBLE AND I WAS STILL ABLE TO USE PAPERS THEN I'D BE OKAY BUT THEYRE USELESS & WAS TOLD THESE PEOPLE WERE JUST OUT FOR MONEY NOT CARING WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE IN THE COURT ROOM. I SPOKE TO DEANNA, DAWN, ERIC, NORMA, DANIELLE, AND LEE JUST TO NAME A FEW. MY MEMBERSHIP NBR WAS 19843656. I NEED THIS $ BACK SO THAT I CAN OBTAIN AN ATTNY THAT CAN ACTUALLY HELP.
Business
Response:
Our records indicate
that Ms. C[redacted] contacted ATC on 2/18/14 requesting assistance with typing court
documents for her. After Ms. C[redacted] spoke
to our representative who informed her of our fees for document preparation she
agreed to become a member and proceeded to complete the website activity and (on
2/19/14) accepted our Terms and Conditions which include our no refund policy,
free revisions… On 2/20/14 Ms. C[redacted] informed
us that she was ready to make a payment in full so that we could type up her
court documents. ATC emailed Ms. C[redacted]
her documents for review/approval on 3/12/14.
Ms. C[redacted] requested revisions (which were made) and on 3/17/14 Ms. C[redacted]
gave final approval of her documents. The final documents were sent U.P.S. on
3/17/14 for Ms. C[redacted] to file with the court. Ms. C[redacted] called and spoke
with customer service on 3/31/14 to cancel her monthly membership fee as her
document process was complete. On 04/17/14 Ms. C[redacted] filed a Revdex.com complaint. -
- - Although (in her complaint) Ms C[redacted] indicates that an attorney’s
opinion was that (due to her sons age) it would not go favorable for her in
court, Ms C[redacted] (previously) made it known to us that she was fully aware of
such a possibility – and even stated such us in an (documented) email sent from
her - the following is taken directly from an email that Ms C[redacted] sent us;
“CONSIDERING MY SON IS 14 IF THE JUDGE DECIDES TO ASK DALTON WHERE HE
WANTS TO LIVE AND DALTON SAYS WITH HIS DAD AND THE JUDGE AGREES I STILL WANT MY
RIGHTS AND VISITATION WITHOUT BEING BLOCKED AND OR HARASSED BY E[redacted] AND
CARTHERINE, I WANT IT KNOWN THAT DECISION MAKING IS BETWEEN ME AND ERIC NOT ME
AND CATHERINE.” --- The fact that
Ms. C[redacted] did not take the next step to file the documents, and any decision
made by a judge or court official, is out of ATC’s control… In addition, to Ms
C[redacted] approval of her final documents, we happily made revisions to these
documents per Ms. C[redacted]’ request, prior to shipment. The reality is that we provided Ms. C[redacted]
exactly what she asked for in a timely manner, and no refund is in order. However, due to the fact that we want to help
people, Ms. C[redacted] she may contact us for a courtesy refund of $100. Her account has been noted as such, and we
truly wish Ms. C[redacted] the best. Sincerely, R. Trevino, ATC, LLC.
Review: I contacted about the children by submitting the form online. A representative called me within the hour. I was told they are a company that gets a lawyer to represent you in court as well as file all legal documents. I filled out all the info online to sign up. I was emailed the documents to sign and make it "official". I was to print, sign, and return within 24 hours. I printed them and read over, never signed anything because the documents stated that they do not represent you in court. They are company that prepares legal documents so you can represent yourself in court. They LIE!!! They charged my credit card over $800 and did absolutely nothing for me. I've tried contacting them on several occasions and nothing has come of it. WORST COMPANY EVER.Desired Settlement: I want a refund today.
Business
Response:
Ms. [redacted] contacted ATC on February 20th 2014,
requesting assistance with typing her court documents… Our original
conversation with any person seeking help is to inform them of our service (of
typing court documents for our members) – why would we mislead her in regards
to what we do? It should be noted that it was necessary for Ms. [redacted] to
read our Terms and Conditions (T & C) before she was able to proceed with
her website activity… In addition to being originally informed that we do not
send an attorney to court (that we only type court documents for members we
help) these T & C clearly reiterate that we don’t send an attorney to
court… Ms. [redacted] accepted our T & C and proceeded to complete the
website activity (also on 2/20/14).
On February 21, 2014 (Friday) Ms. [redacted] contacted us and
informed us that she was ready to make a payment in full so that we could
prepare her documents. Then on February 24th 2014 (Monday) we
contacted Ms. [redacted] and asked her to fax some information to us so that we
could move forward with typing her documents. During this phone call Ms.
[redacted] became agitated and stated that she was unhappy because she felt that
court documents without any attorney present was “ridiculous”. Ms. [redacted]
stated she was going to charge back her credit card with her bank then
she proceeded to hang up on the customer service representative she was
speaking with. At
this time, the family service supervisor called Ms. [redacted] back and the call
went to Ms. [redacted] ‘s voice mail. A message was left to have
Ms.[redacted] call back to discuss the issue. An email was also sent at this
time stating what the phone message said - to “please call us back” so that we
can resolve this matter. Ms. [redacted] did not call or email a response back
to ATC. On March 5th 2014 , ATC received a chargeback from the
bank for the enrollment fee of 98.00. On April 3rd 2014, Ms.
[redacted] called ATC and asked for a refund for the document fee totaling $690.00.
Ms. [redacted] was informed that she had called the enrollment phone number
and was told the family service supervisor would promptly return her phone call
regarding her request for a refund. Within minutes Ms. [redacted] was called
and the call went to voice mail. A message was left and an email was sent
stating that ATC would like to speak with her to resolve this issue.
Again Ms. [redacted] did not return ATC’s phone call or email request to
discuss the issue. On
April 4th 2014, ATC received a complaint from the Revdex.com. In
reference to Ms. [redacted]’s Revdex.com complaint - at no time was Ms. [redacted] told an
attorney would appear on her behalf. Again, on Ms. [redacted]’s initial call
to ATC for assistance Ms. [redacted] was told that we are a document preparation
company. When Ms. [redacted] agreed to have ATC type her court documents, our
fees were reiterated and she was once again told that an attorney would not be
provided for her. Consumers need to understand that although
we always intend to satisfy any consumer - the Revdex.com does not dictate, nor are we
compelled to offer a refund due a complaint that includes unfair and false
statements and accusations. We have left a phone and email message for
Ms. [redacted] and both parties are experiencing some “phone tag”… As in all situations - we look forward to the
opportunity to speak with Ms. [redacted] to come
to a mutually fair resolution resolve her complaint. We truly wish Ms.
[redacted] the best. Sincerely, R. [redacted],
ATC, LLC.
Review: I was trying to get help with getting visitation rights for my daughter. This company said that they would help me with the paperwork and assist with the process. They took my money and have not helped at all. It's hard to get ahold of anyone to ask questions and will not return my call. The new one time they called and left me a number, the number was not right. I asked for a refund since they were not doing what they said they would, they told me that it was non refundable and then told me that I needed to go online and read and accept the terms and conditions. I was not told that it was not refundable and I don't understand why they did not have me accept terms and conditions before hand.Desired Settlement: The $98 that I already paid aboutthechildren.org
Business
Response:
On
2/3/15, and (as he was promised) Mr. [redacted] received a (same day) courtesy “Welcome
Call” within an hour after he enrolled for our services. Mr. [redacted] did not
answer his phone and we left a voicemail confirming that his enrollment was successful,
and that we delivered his 2 emails as we promised. ------ Mr. [redacted] clearly
knew that these emails were going to be delivered to him and that it was his
responsibility to compete his website activity and his responsibility to call
us when he completed this activity… ------ on 2/9/15, Mr. [redacted] called his
original enrolling agent and stated that no one had called him (we had, he just
did not answer his phone). His original Enrolling Agent informed him that no
refund was available and was encouraged to complete his website activity, per their
original conversation/agreement… and a message was submitted to our Customer
Service Department and we immediately called him back. Again, Mr. [redacted] did not answer his
phone, and we left him a voice message to call us back… ------ Mr. [redacted]
then called us on 2/23/15 and requested to cancel his membership with us, and did
not request or discuss a refund. Since
20 days had passed, we simply canceled Mr. [redacted] account and his
conversation with us ended. ------ Within an hour, Mr. [redacted] filed a complaint
with the Revdex.com. Since the last conversation and Mr. [redacted]’s complaint occurred
within an hour of each other, a call was made to Mr. [redacted] to resolve any
concerns he had. - Mr. [redacted] did not answer his phone and we (again) had to
leave him a voice message. IN ADDITION, an owner of our business immediately
contacted the Revdex.com and informed them that Mr. [redacted] did not request a refund
and he made a complaint to the Revdex.com within the hour. ------ It should be noted
that the Terms and Conditions that Mr. [redacted] refers to confirms that he had
ALREADY paid the $98 enrollment fee (it doesn’t ask for permission, as he had already
given us permission) – the main reason for the T&Cs is to confirm that we
are not a law firm, document what our services are, RE-affirm the maximum fee Mr.
[redacted] would pay to have his court documents typed… ------ We have issued Mr.
[redacted] a full refund. ------ We felt it necessary to document the above
because, as we immediately informed the Revdex.com when we received Mr. [redacted]’s
same-day complaint – we feel that this is an unmerited complaint, and should
not be held against us. ------ We wish Mr. [redacted] the best of success.
Sincerely, [redacted], ATC, LLC
Consumer
Response:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID 10461790, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.
Regards,
I would also like to point out that I only received one phone call from them to ask about this problem. Then after I made complaint with the Revdex.com I did receive a call about refund from a gentleman named[redacted] to give me a link to take complaint back from Revdex.com n give me a refund. When I tried to call this man he never responded back to me. I then tried to call him the very next day to which I left him message n never heard from him. He then left a message saying that the reason I didn't receive calls was because someone called me once and when I tried to call the number that was left on my voicemail it was a bad number.
Review: I contacted about the children to represent me dealing with the issues about my daughter. while trying to get this handled I have experienced horrible customer service dealing with agents billing contract issues I had told them I did not want to them to represent me anymore I have not got my final drive and they refuse to give me a refund. during that time I have contacted several people within the company and they hang up the phone on me that you got direct me to somebody I can talk to about the situation they refuse to talk to me about the situation I just want my money back of the issues that I had dinner with my daughter is already in the process of being taken care of so I just wanted I just want to separate to get my money back like I said I have not received any final documents or anything else from this company they just decided to take my money and say hey we don't care after you paid in full. so can you please help me get my money back I live in Atlanta and the business is located in California and it's unfair to me and I also had good reviews after I start dealing with them and seeing that they had several complaints with the Revdex.com. I don't think it's fair for this business to pray on the weak why you're dealing with sensitive situations dealing with family and children please help thank you.Desired Settlement: I would like my money back nothing that was nothing that I paid them for they did it was a horrible experience I did not use the documents to file to the courts for my situation with my daughter. about the children will not work with me at all the try to resolve this situation they are very unprofessional by hanging up the phone and block and then ignoring is very unfair when I live in Atlanta I would just like my money back so I can continue doing what I have to do for my daughter please help
Business
Response:
First, it should be noted that we rarely make this statement about anyone: Mr. B[redacted] is lying, period. As you read his “complaint”, the first part states that he did not receive his documents, then, that his daughter was in the process of taking care of her situation, then, that he did not file his documents (indicating what he informed us of – that he DID receive his documents.) ===== In regard to his statement, “I just want my money back, I have not received any final documents.” ==== It should be noted that our (time-stamped) records document that Mr. B[redacted] called our office on 8/17/15 and stated to us that “ I PRINTED THE DOCUMENTS YOU SENT to me and “they were rejected by the court.” This naturally, is in complete contrast to what he states in his documented complaint to the Revdex.com. For this reason, we cannot (nor should anyone else) believe anything Mr. B[redacted] has listed in his complaint. ====== FOR THE RECORD: it should be noted that when (on 8/17/15) Mr. B[redacted] called requesting a refund, we explained that we needed a letter or confirmation that the documents that we provided, were indeed rejected by the courts, and that he needed to give us an opportunity to correct, or amend our documents as/if required. Our Terms and Conditions, which he (accepted) before entering our website, state that a member must allow us to (at no additional charge) correct, or make any necessary modifications to any documents provided by us. ==== It should be noted, that when we brought the above mentioned to Mr. B[redacted]s attention, he became unreasonable and irate, and we did have to end a particular phone call. ===== After reviewing the specifics of what actually transpired, we have decided that no refund will be provided to Mr. B[redacted]. However, as a courtesy, we are willing to make any corrections to the documents that Mr. B[redacted] was provided. His account has been noted accordingly. We truly wish him the best of success, Sincerely, ATC
Review: I opend two cases with them in dec 2014 paid extra money for my cases to be priority they charged my debit card over $1000.00 they told me I had to fax a paper before my case could be handled so I faxed it right away they said they did recieve it even thou I got the confermation they did I sent it 2 more time same response they didnt recieve it and there were weeks inbetween them contacting me I recived no services but they will not give me a refund and they said they havent recived any of my voice mails even thou I have left messages daily also when I went to the bank to get all the info I found out that they took money out of my account from a different name (mid contact ma residents)Desired Settlement: Refund
Business
Response:
No refund is in order as members need to cooperate with us,
this system is a 2-way agreement. In speaking with Mr. [redacted]’s bank they stated
that they did not approve a “charging back” (reversing) his charges, due to the
fact that Mr. [redacted] contradicted himself when speaking with them…===== Here is
a summary of what has transpired thus far: ===== Mr. [redacted] contacted ATC on
11/7/2014, where he discussed having documentation prepared for two sets of
children. After paying his one- time enrollment fee of $98.00, Mr. [redacted]
said he’d like to proceed with both sets of documents. Since 2 different mothers
were involved, 2 separate sets of documents were required. Mr. [redacted] was
told that the first set of documents would cost $590.00, and the fee for the second
set was $300.00. As a courtesy - and were reduced because his case required
separate documentation. ----- Together with his enrollment fee of $98.00 and
his combined document fees of $890.00, the total fee is to be $988.00, not the
$1,571 Mr. [redacted] referenced in his complaint. Mr. [redacted] has paid for his first
set of documents. Mr. [redacted]’s first set of documents were sent to his Email for
his review on 2/18/15. ----- Mr. [redacted] paid half of his 2nd set of
documents totaling $300 = with a remaining balance due of $150.00. ----- Mr.
[redacted] took TWO WEEKS to provide ATC with the names, addresses and his current court
orders related to his family court case. THESE DOCUMENTS were needed in order
to prepare (type) his first set of documents. There is never an offer of “rushing”
documentation without all the information needed to complete the
documentation. Rushing documents can only be done when all necessary
information has been provided by the member which was explained to Mr. [redacted].
----- Mr. [redacted]’s 2nd set of documents have been on hold since
12/18/14 pending him supplying ATC with the temporary orders from
child protective services that Mr. [redacted] HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY asked to supply us
with. WE STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED THESE REQUIRED DOUCMENTS FROM MR. [redacted]!
------ We are currently 12 weeks out from our first request for the
temporary order from child protective services needed to prepare the second set
of documents. Mr. [redacted] states that he has repeatedly faxed us those
documents. We have not received them and wish to note that we had no
problem receiving all the necessary paperwork required to complete the first
set of Mr. [redacted]’s documents that he was previously emailed. Mr. [redacted]
was told all necessary documentation needed to prepare his documents would need
to be provided via fax or email in order to complete his requests. ----- ATC
would love to settle Mr. [redacted]’s complaint and ask that he review the
documents for the completed first set of documents sent to him via email on
2/18/15, and revise or approve of them so that we may ship those documents to
him via UPS. ====== Mr. [redacted]’s 2nd set of documents have been on
hold since 12/18/14 pending him supplying ATC with the temporary orders
from child protective services that Mr. [redacted] has been repeatedly asked for to
complete them. Upon receipt of those documents, ATC would be happy to complete
the second set of documentation. Multiple phone calls, messages, and
emails have been sent to Mr. [redacted] and we still do not have the necessary
document to complete this paperwork. IT SHOULD BE NOTED: If a member was having
difficulty having ATC receive any fax(es), 1) the problem is not necessarily on
our end, as we receive faxes 24 hours a day ----- 2) a different fax can be
utilized 3) documents can be scanned and emailed to us. -----In addition, Mr.
[redacted] has falsely included in his complaint that we withdrew funds from his
account under the name “Mid MA Residents” - we have confirmed with his bank
that he is in error. Mr. [redacted] has and is being asked to contact us so that we
can finish the document preparation process. In our last correspondence with
Mr. [redacted], he was also informed that we are willing to offer him an additional
discount to the deep discount he has already been provided. We look forward to
speaking with Mr. [redacted] and addressing this issue to both parties satisfaction.
Sincerely, ATC, LLC.
Business
Response:
Our original included the
following statement:::: ====== “Mr. [redacted]… “he was also informed that we are
willing to offer him an additional discount to the deep discount he has already
been provided. We look forward to speaking with Mr. [redacted] and addressing this
issue to both parties satisfaction. Sincerely, ATC, LLC. ===== Since that time,
we returned a call Mr. [redacted] made to us on 3/9/15 (at 9:35am PST). We look forward to hearing from him. ======
HERE IS OUR ORIGINAL RESPONSE TO MR. [redacted]’S COMPLAINT: ================ No refund is in order as members need to
cooperate with us, this system is a 2-way agreement. In speaking with Mr.
[redacted]’s bank they stated that they did not approve a “charging back”
(reversing) his charges, due to the fact that Mr. [redacted] contradicted himself
when speaking with them…===== Here is a summary of what has transpired thus
far: ===== Mr. [redacted] contacted ATC on 11/7/2014, where he discussed having
documentation prepared for two sets of children. After paying his one-
time enrollment fee of $98.00, Mr. [redacted] said he’d like to proceed with both
sets of documents. Since 2 different mothers were involved, 2 separate sets of
documents were required. Mr. [redacted] was told that the first set of
documents would cost $590.00, and the fee for the second set was $300.00. As a
courtesy - and were reduced because his case required separate documentation.
----- Together with his enrollment fee of $98.00 and his combined document fees
of $890.00, the total fee is to be $988.00, not the $1,571 Mr. [redacted] referenced
in his complaint. Mr. [redacted] has paid for his first set of documents. Mr.
[redacted]’s first set of documents were sent to his Email for his review on
2/18/15. ----- Mr. [redacted] paid half of his 2nd set of documents
totaling $300 = with a remaining balance due of $150.00. ----- Mr. [redacted] took
TWO WEEKS to provide ATC with the names, addresses and his current court orders
related to his family court case. THESE DOCUMENTS were needed in order to
prepare (type) his first set of documents. There is never an offer of “rushing”
documentation without all the information needed to complete the
documentation. Rushing documents can only be done when all necessary
information has been provided by the member which was explained to Mr. [redacted].
----- Mr. [redacted]’s 2nd set of documents have been on hold since
12/18/14 pending him supplying ATC with the temporary orders from child
protective services that Mr. [redacted] HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY asked to supply us with.
WE STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED THESE REQUIRED DOUCMENTS FROM MR. [redacted]! ------ We
are currently 12 weeks out from our first request for the temporary order
from child protective services needed to prepare the second set of
documents. Mr. [redacted] states that he has repeatedly faxed us those
documents. We have not received them and wish to note that we had no
problem receiving all the necessary paperwork required to complete the first
set of Mr. [redacted]’s documents that he was previously emailed. Mr. [redacted]
was informed that all necessary documentation needed to prepare his documents,
needed to provided to us, via fax or email in order to complete his
requests. ----- ATC would love to settle Mr. [redacted]’s complaint and
ask that he review the documents for the completed first set of documents sent
to him via email on 2/18/15, and revise or approve of them so that we may ship
those documents to him via UPS. ====== Mr. [redacted]’s 2nd set of
documents have been on hold since 12/18/14 pending him supplying ATC with the
temporary orders from child protective services that Mr. [redacted] has been
repeatedly asked for to complete them. Upon receipt of those documents, ATC
would be happy to complete the second set of documentation. Multiple
phone calls, messages, and emails have been sent to Mr. [redacted] and we still do
not have the necessary document to complete this paperwork. IT SHOULD BE NOTED:
If a member was having difficulty having ATC receive any fax(es), 1) the
problem is not necessarily on our end, as we receive faxes 24 hours a day -----
2) a different fax can be utilized 3) documents can be scanned and emailed to
us. -----In addition, Mr. [redacted] has falsely included in his complaint that we
withdrew funds from his account under the name “Mid MA Residents” - we have
confirmed with his bank that he is in error. Mr. [redacted] has and is being asked
to contact us so that we can finish the document preparation process. In our
last correspondence with Mr. [redacted], he was also informed that we are willing to
offer him an additional discount to the deep discount he has already been
provided. We look forward to speaking with Mr. [redacted] and addressing this issue
to both parties satisfaction. Sincerely, ATC, LLC.
Consumer
Response:
Review: 10454970
I am rejecting this response because:
My 1st case is already done and over and they did nothing to help in the matter even though they collected all the money that they asked for everyone else that I fax something to the get it for some reason these people are saying they didn't get any of the same three faxes that I sent and have proof saying it was received would you like copies of them? I have tried many times to contact them I always get the I will have some one call you back if any when someone does answer I feel like this is a scam and they swindled my money I just want a refund this is not just twenty dollars this is hundreds of dollars that they took from me
Regards,
Review: My contract with About The Children stated that I could stop my "services" at any time. I called and left a message in mid-October that I wanted to end my contract and that I did not want to have my account debited for the October payment which hits between the 21st and 24th. The ACH went through and we were charged. I called to have the charge removed and Heather was insistent that there was a week delay before our account would receive the credit. We went back and forth with her getting more abusive. In the end she agreed to do the credit which showed up 3 days later.Today 11/24/13 my husband checked our bank account and there was a debit for About The Children. It is Sunday. I tried to call but their mailbox is full and noone was answering the phone. I sent a generic interest email which is the only method made available for contacting them. I will be sending a letter tomorrow with specific directions to cancel my account, stop the ACH and immediately credit my bank account. I can't speak to their services but their billing, contact options and customer service are horrific.Desired Settlement: Immediate credit of $24.99Immediate cancellation of ACH activitiesImmediate notice in writing that contract has been cancelled and the ACH has been stopped.
Business
Response:
Our records show that Ms. [redacted] called on 10/18/13 (10:36am) and left a voice mail to call her ---- at 10:47am we returned her call and left a voicemail for her to call us back ---- at 11:04am member called us back and her Service Rep was on the line, so we called her back and were unable to reach her, and left a message for her to call us back… ---- As shown – “phone tag” took place between Ms. [redacted] and ATC ---- ---- Our next contact was when Ms. [redacted] called us on 10/28 to request a refund for a billing which occurred on 10/24/14 ---- ---- As Ms. [redacted] states, we had an agreement for a monthly billing which occurred on Thursday, 10/24/13… Member called us 4 days (10/28/13) after her account (as agreed) was billed and we issued an immediate refund as a courtesy. --- Obviously, our full intent was to cancel Ms. [redacted]’s account (which is why we agreed, as a courtesy to refund her account 4 days after our agreed billing date) ---- During the call, and due to human error, we accidently neglected to “cancel” Ms. [redacted]’s monthly billing. ---- We received her email informing us of a SUNDAY billing and we immediately issued Ms. [redacted] a refund on Monday, 11/26/13. ---- As seen by the above, we attempted contact promptly and refunded promptly as well ---- We certainly wish Ms. [redacted] the best of success in dealing with her family situation, ---- Sincerely, [redacted], ATC
Consumer
Response:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID 9815728, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.
Regards,
Review: I helped a friend out they were in hard times and they didn't have a debit card so I offered mine for a one time uses. Thats all I had authorized the guy I spoke to on the phone . On April 10th 2015 they withdrew $24.99 out of my account unauthorized. Ive called and left messages and no return call.Desired Settlement: $24.99 to be put back into my account immediatly.
Business
Response:
Ms.
[redacted] enrolled into our program with Mr. [redacted] credit card on 3/9/15. It
was explained to both parties by their new member enrollment specialist that
the initial 98.00 enrollment fee, and subsequent monthly fee of 24.99 would be
automatically deducted from the credit card used until the account was
cancelled by one or both parties, or if an alternate form of payment access was
provided. On 4/10/15 the provided credit card for Ms. [redacted]’ s account was
charged the (scheduled) monthly fee of 24.99 as previously explained. At no
time did Mr. [redacted] or Ms. [redacted] call or email to cancel or make changes to
Ms. [redacted]’s account. In addition, at no time did Mr. [redacted] call for a
refund. Had he done so, ATC would have offered him a courtesy refund, as this
is our standard practice. It should be noted, that ATC could state that this is
an issue between Mr. [redacted] and Ms. [redacted] since she was “borrowing” his
credit card. It is NOT uncommon to only charge the $98 enrollment fee to a
(non-member) credit card – but our records do not indicate that this was
requested by either party. That said, as a courtesy, ATC has credited the
credit card of Mr. [redacted] the $24.99 and have closed Ms. [redacted]’ s account.
Taking the above into consideration, ATC is requesting that Mr. [redacted] to
request that the Revdex.com not count this complaint against our business. He may do
this by responding to the email he will be receiving from the Revdex.com. In any
event, we wish him the best of success. Sincerely, [redacted], ATC, LLC.
Review: I requested a refund of the $98.00 fee and they never returned my call. Cannot get in touch with customer service at all. Left several messages.Desired Settlement: Refund to my aunts credit card or debit card.
Business
Response:
Mr. [redacted] enrolled into our program on 6/9/14. He left a voice message
the next day that he wanted to cancel and receive a refund. We informed Mr.
[redacted] today (6/24/14) that we were experiencing problems with Verizon email that
day and in fact that week. Due to this, the request submitted from on Customer
Service Department to the person who handles refunds never made it to its
destination. FOR THE RECORD: Our records indicate that Mr. [redacted] only
called us one time (on 6/10/14). ---- In any event, we apologize for any confusion and delay – The account utilized to enroll was issued a full refund
and Mr. [redacted] was informed of refund via email (his voice mail is not set up,
and call to him was unanswered). - - - We truly wish him the best of success,
Sincerely, [redacted], ATC, LLC
Review: I filled out a form for a free consultation with this company and was later contacted by one of their representatives. As I was on the phone with them they asked for my address and then quickly started asking for my credit card informantion. I began to give it to them and when they asked for the 3 digit code on the back of the card we were disconnected. I never recontacted them nor did I authorize them to process any payment for services. A day or two later the amount of $98.00 was deducted from my account by this company. I have not used any of their services nor do I intend to. I have tried to contact them on numerous occasions at different times during the day and continue to get the same automated message that they are currently helping other customers and will contact me if I leave my name and number. I did so and have yet to receive a call from them. I have been charged for services I never agreed to use and have not used.Desired Settlement: I would like the full amount of $98.00 returned to me.
Business
Response:
This is not considered a significant complaint. Our recorded account of this transaction does not show that Mr. [redacted]s’ call was disconnected before he was properly informed that his credit card would be charged his enrollment fee of $98, and Mr [redacted] was issued a full refund the 2nd time we could not reach him by phone (we sent an email confirmation). ----
Mr [redacted] is completely satisfied that we issued him a full refund on 8/8/13... and have provided him with a free membership for four (4) months should he need our help in the future when his unborn child (congratulations!) arrives.----
After Mr. [redacted] enrolled on 7/26/13, he left us a voicemail on 7/29 (9:34am) requesting a refund. - - - 9 minutes later (9:43am) we called Mr. [redacted] and his phone just rang busy… so we sent him an email regarding providing him a refund. - - - On 8/8/13 at 8:35am Mr. [redacted] contacted ATC in regard to his refund, and his information was forwarded to our accounting department… 19 minutes later (8:54am) we called both numbers we had for Mr. [redacted] (one number was not in working order and the other went unanswered with no opportunity to leave a voice message. --- within a few minutes, we sent Mr. [redacted] an email confirming that we issued Mr. [redacted] a full refund. - - - As in all cases, we have no problem issuing a refund to a deserving consumers like Mr. [redacted], we at times simply have issues in making the necessary contact as needed. --- As we indicated to Mr. [redacted], we apologize for any confusion or misunderstanding, and sincerely wish him the best in dealing with his family court issue. We informed Mr. [redacted] that are giving him a 3 month free membership should he decide to utilize our services within that time frame. --- Sincerely, R. Trevino, ATC
Review: I contacted company to look into filling for divorce/ custody. The person I spoke with told me that they would send me documents to look over and a payment plan, and at that point if I decided to work with them they would need a $98.00 fee. Two days went by and I never reacived these, however my bank account was then deducted $98.00. After doing some research on this company I noticed numerous fraud sites for them. I called a few times and never heard back from them, so I disputed with my bank. This company has sent my bank verification that I signed papers I never recieved.Desired Settlement: I would just like my $98.00 back. They are a scam and I believe this is only right. Per there records they physically only spoke to me once.
Business
Response:
A full refund in the amount of $98 was issued to Ms. [redacted]. ----- Here is a summary: -----Ms. [redacted] enrolled with our services on 8/1/13 and later that day accepted our Terms & Conditions (mandatory to complete her website activity). ---- Next day (8/2/13) she spoke with us again and due to her financial situation was qualified our “financial hardship” (reduced rate) to move forward with our services, and Ms. [redacted] asked us to call her on 8/5/13 to make a payment ---- on 8/5/13 as agreed, we called Mr. [redacted] (also sent an email) and were unable to reach her ---- on 8/6/13 we again called Ms. [redacted] and only received her voicemail. ----- Without further communication with us, Ms. [redacted] disputed her $98 enrollment fee with her credit card company -----Visa denied Ms. [redacted]’s request for a refund ---- Ultimately, after discussion and as a courtesy to Ms. [redacted] we provided her with a full refund in the amount of $98 ---- We truly wish Ms. [redacted] the best of success in dealing with her family issue ----- [redacted], ATC
Consumer
Response:
Review: 9791466
I am rejecting this response because:
Regards,
Company has paid me back however this is not how this event took place. Upon speaking with company originally they did not state fees. They stated they would send me sign up documents which I never received. At that time I would be assessed a fee. I never heard back from them. About 20 days later the fees were taken out of my checking account. I then filled a complaint with my bank. A few months later my bank sent me a statement saying they were siding w/ this company based on a statement this company sent them. This statement said that About the Children said that they had contacted me. Upon receiving this I looked it over and they had said they had called me numerous times. I have caller ID at my work and it is all time stamped. I have never heard from them nor have I called them. This statement also said that they ceased my account on 8/20.
When I contacted About the Children the man I spoke to said that I was speaking to the president of the company. ( I could not confirm this). He went round and round with me until he offered me half my money back and a lifetime membership. I turned this down stating that I do not foresee ever needing services in the future based on website reviews. He called me back a few days later and asked for my address to send me my check.
Business
Response:
ATC is pleased to confirm that although Visa Card denied Ms. [redacted] her "charge-back" refund, ATC made the decision issue her a full refund as a courtesy. ----- Our records show that our original response is an accurate representation of what occurred. ---- We are truly not concerned about “winning” Ms. [redacted]’s a Visa Card dispute, which is why we chose to refund her in full. ---- As previously stated, we truly wish Ms. [redacted] the best of success in dealing with her family issue. ---- [redacted], ATC
Review: This company services are not good at all. They debited money from my account without my permission and when I tried to get it back went to the next step of the services. They never completed anything they promised they would. My paperwork kept coming back with stuff incompleted that I gave them. Then the email addresses they provided for communication stopped working. When I tried cancelling my services the emails bounced back and I called to speak to a live person. Only got a live person 1 time since the start of the srevice, every other time I received voicemail. Now I'm having a to do to get my money back as they didn't complete the agreed upon services. I would not reccommend them to anyone, as what they do you can do for free at your local court house. They should be ashamed of themselves, taking advantage of parents who are just looking for an advocate in their time of need. I aslo spoke to an actual lawyer who said that they shouldn't even be charging for paperwork completion, when they are free workshops in your local courthouse. Talk about a rip of
!Desired Settlement: I want them to return my $350 since they never provided the services they agreed upon.
Review: I, Olga Broussard is asking for a refund of $590.00 that was made to WWW.abourthechildren.org. I didn't hand sign anything on paper nor on line signature.Desired Settlement: I, Olga Broussard would like the company to resolve my problem by giving me my money back.
Business
Response:
Mrs. [redacted] contacted ATC on
03/12/14 requesting assistance with preparing court documents for her.
After she spoke to our senior advocate who informed her of our fees for
document preparation , she agreed to become a member and proceeded to complete
the website activity and accept the terms and conditions on 03/12/14. On
03/13/14 Mrs. [redacted] contacted her Family Service Rep informing him
that she was ready to make a payment in full so that we could prepare her
documents. ATC then prepared documents for her and had Mrs. [redacted]’s rough
draft documents ready to email for revisions or for approval on 3/19/14. On
3/19/14 at 3:45 pm PST a message was left by a family service representative
calling her in regards to signing her receipt in order to email her
“rough drafts” to her. Mrs. [redacted] did not return our phone calls. On
3/24/14 we were sent a complaint from the Revdex.com regarding Mrs. [redacted] asking
for a full refund on the grounds that she did not sign her receipt. Mrs.
[redacted] was called immediately on 3/24/14 and a voicemail was
left regarding her complaint and that ATC would like to speak with
her regarding her request for a refund. Mrs. [redacted] was called again
on 3/25/14 as well as emailed. Mrs. [redacted] was called again on
3/26/14, 3/27/14 and 3/28/14 with no response from her. Finally late
afternoon on 3/28/14, Mrs. [redacted] called back and spoke with the
family service supervisor. At this time , Mrs. [redacted] was asked why she was
requesting a refund and had we done anything wrong regarding her document preparation?
She stated nothing was wrong with what we did for her ,she just wanted her
money back. The family service supervisor then told Mrs. [redacted] that at the
rough draft stage, the documents have already been prepared and that ATC
would not be able to give her a refund for her documents. At this time,
the family service supervisor stated that since her documents were ready,
that we would like to complete the process and have her review the documents
for her approval… Mrs. [redacted] said she understood why we could not refund
her money for the documents and the call ended. Mrs. [redacted] was called again
on 3/31/14 and a message was left stating that ATC would like the
opportunity to provide her with her completed documents as previously
discussed. No response from the member as of today 04/01/14. Mrs. [redacted] may
contact us so that we can move forward - We sincerely look forward to assisting
her. Sincerely, R. [redacted], ATC
Consumer
Response:
Review: 9979413
I am rejecting this response because:
I didn't sign my signature on anything or electronically sign anything I just want my money back that's the only way we're gonna resolve this issue is if I get my money back
Regards,
O[redacted]
Business
Response:
Although we are continuing
with our original response – that no refund is due… that we did exactly
what Ms. [redacted] asked us to do, and that she stated that there was nothing
wrong with her documents, that she just decided that she wanted a refund… As a courtesy, a refund in the amount of $295
has been provided to Ms. [redacted]. For the record; Our records indicate that Ms. [redacted] accepted
our T&C’s (which serve as an electronic signature for billing purposes) on 3/12/14,
and (due to her financial situation) was qualified for our Financial Hardship program
(a $400 reduction). It is necessary for
all members to accept our on-line Terms and Conditions (T&C) BEFORE any
member accesses our (MEMBER’S ONLY) website. These T&C clearly state our
services, refund policy… We only mention
this for further clarification - we are glad that both parties were able to
come to an agreement, and we truly wish Ms. [redacted] the best of success. Sincerely, R. [redacted], ATC, LLC
My husband and I contacted the program in regards to his visitation rights that are being denied by his ex-wife. When we first called them they were more than willing to assist us with the concerns that we had. We paid the $98, but then we heard nothing after being promised a phone call within 24 hours. I did not acknowledge the website after doing some of my own research, seeing the horrid reviews and the complaints, I sent them an email about cancelling my account immediately and getting my $98 back. I received a phone call, but was unable to take it as I was at work. Once I had a moment I called them back and left a voicemail.... Nothing... I called again and nothing. Finally, I called the main number and spoke to someone who was absolutely hateful when she realized what I was calling for. After letting her know that I would be reporting them I received a phone call immediately. They promised to cancel my account and refund the money... We shall see.. The confirmation email is still pending.
Review: It was a scam they were real unreachable, when they finally got back in contact with me they were asking for more money, they mislead me with information and I would like to get my money back.Desired Settlement: I would like my money either put back on my prepaid debit card if possible or I would like them to issue me a check.
Business
Response:
As owner of ATC, I find it offensive that this person uses the word “scam”, flat-out lies, and runs to the Revdex.com in an attempt to get a refund… ----- Before I provide the facts of what occurred, I would like to confirm this: I PROMISE THE FOLLOWING::: --- As our record confirms, I have been affiliated with the Santa Barbara Revdex.com for nearly 13 years (since 2001) - ATC has helped over 60,000 members, and we currently have over 5,000 active members. With this much activity in our nationwide program, mistakes or misunderstandings will occur (not to mention people wanting something for free, or having over the top expectations of what they think they deserve in family court). ----- Oftentimes people will do anything - lie, (even lose their memory), in an attempt get collect a refund – this is just a reality of human behavior. I promise that any member who has a merited issue with ATC, if we are in error, will receive a partial or FULL REFUND – period. ----- With that said, here is the truth of what occurred with Mrs. [redacted] ::: ----- Mrs. [redacted] enrolled for our services on 12/2/14 and received a courtesy (welcome) call within an hour. This Welcome Call took place at 1:00pm (we have all activity date-stamped). This 2nd call to member is to specifically confirm our services, fees, and refund policy and Mrs. [redacted] was instructed to log-on to our Website, read and accept our Terms & Conditions (T&C,), complete her website activity, and then call her Family Service Rep… ---- An hour (2:00pm) after this Welcome Call took place, Mrs. [redacted] logged on to our member site and electronically accepted our Terms and Conditions and completed her online activity. It is a requirement that everyone that enrolls with our service must read and accept these T&C (which clearly states in writing, what they were told verbally – including our fees, refund policy, and that we only prepare court documents…) BEFORE they can proceed to use our services. ----- FOR THE RECORD, here is an unaltered section of the T&C that Mrs. [redacted] read and accepted::: (section B) Legal Document Preparation Service Fees – If you want ATC, LLC to assist you with the preparation of your legal documents, you will be charged a maximum fee of $690.00. This amount may be lowered depending on your financial situation (discuss with your Customer Service Representative). This is a one-time only charge. Financing may be available according to a plan approved by ATC, LLC. Please ask your Customer Service Representative for information regarding what options may be available to you. Your fees for Legal Document Preparation do not include any court filing fees or the costs of any legal process or other document filing service…. - - - - - The following day, 12/3/14 at 11:56am Mrs. [redacted] spoke with a Family Service Rep and due to her lack of finances, WAS QUALIFIED for a Financial Hardship fee of $490 – a $200 discount!. Her comment to us was that she would speak with her husband… Mrs. [redacted]’s account was subsequently put on hold. The next day, ATC received Mrs. [redacted]’s unmerited complaint she filed with the Revdex.com. ----- As shown above, not only did we communicate in a timely and effective manner with Mrs. [redacted] - she did not balk when we offered her a $200 discount, and she did not ask us for a refund… But yet, she ran to the Revdex.com. ----- For the reasons given above, no refund is due to Mrs. [redacted]. ----- We truly wish her the best of success in dealing with her family issue. Sincerely, [redacted], ATC, LLC
Review: My husband has a 3 month old son that was due to an affair we contacted ATC before the baby was born and they told us if it was his they could help us with all the documentation to get his rights so we did and we got our rough draft told them everything we wanted when we got it back it didn't have any of the visitation rights we wanted and when I asked them they told me to leave that blank till we went to court so I asked them again because that didn't seem right they said due to the child age that is how it is done. We paid a membership fee plus 24.99 month and then 790.00 for the documentation I sold my bike to do this and when we finally save up the money to file we found the paper work was not filled out completely all the visitation portion (which is about half of the documentation) still needed filled out. When I contacted them and told them that they were wrong and I wanted my money back basically was told I signed a no refund agreement and I told them well you didn't fulfill your agreement either. They also said you can fill it that part with a black ink pen..so why did I pay them if it wasn't going to be correct and fully filled out. Even a partial refund would have been nice. I just don't want anybody else being taken. They take a very serious and sensitive situation and scam people who don't have money for lawyers. They say its all about the children and really its all about the money. I have email correspondences showing I asked them twice to try and make sure everything was correct. If I had not asked twice I would take my lumps and move on but I did ask several times and basically they took the money and gave us nothing I now have to fill it out myself and then my husband can take them in and file I sold my bike for nothing. It just a shame that people can take advantage of people in desperate need and get away with it.Desired Settlement: I would like them to refund me $500.00 of the 790.00 document fee and 50.00 of the monthly membership fee I have paid. I feel that 290.00 is what it is worth that they did fill out correctly and 95.00 to be a member they can keep I guess. So I want a total of $550.00 refund. All of it would be nice due the time loss from work finding out we couldn't file yet the emotional trauma of it and all but that is probably too much to ask for.
Business
Response:
Although we did have some issues in the preparation of Mr. [redacted]’s documents, as stated in the
Terms and Conditions that all members read and accept - ATC will correct and/or
make any modifications to documents without any additional charge. This member
contacted us (on 7/24/14) several hours before this Revdex.com complaint was made, and
both parties agreed that we (ATC) would correct documents the next day (7/25/14) by 3pm. The corrections were made and the Final Drafts of
members documents were provided to them on time, as promised. As different
courts have different policies/procedures for similar documents, we do have
occasional issues whereas we need to redo something that we truly attempted to
do correct the first time. We believe we have done our part is assisting this
member and no refund is in order, as Mr. [redacted] was able to move forward in using
his court documents. ---- We truly wish them the best of success, [redacted], ATC, LLC
Business
Response:
While we
understand that this member’s wife has rejected our below response, this does
not change the fact that we fulfilled our obligation in (ultimately) providing
them with the finished documents he purchased, which allowed him to move
forward with the family court issue he was having. Mr. [redacted] was billed 2 (two) months
membership fee - as a courtesy, Mr. [redacted] may contact us for a refund for those
2 months. ----- Mr. [redacted]’s account has
been noted accordingly. ----- Below is a copy of our original response to his
complaint: ----- Although we did have some
issues in the preparation of Mr. [redacted]’s documents, as stated in the Terms and
Conditions that all members read and accept - ATC will correct and/or make any
modifications to documents without any additional charge. This member contacted
us (on 7/24/14) several hours before this Revdex.com complaint was made, and both
parties agreed that we (ATC) would correct documents the next day (7/25/14) by
3pm. The corrections were made and the Final Drafts of members documents were
provided to them on time, as promised. As different courts have different
policies/procedures for similar documents, we do have occasional issues whereas
we need to redo something that we truly attempted to do correct the first time.
We believe we have done our part is assisting this member and no refund is in
order, as Mr. [redacted] was able to move forward in using his court documents. ----
We truly wish them the best of success, [redacted], ATC, LLC
Consumer
Response:
Review: 10147074
I am rejecting this response because:
Regards,
Review: I found this website that helps fathers get custody and child support. they are refunding me the 24.95 ad then when I signed up in the begining it cost me 98.00 dollars to join and then they would have some one help me with what I need.I called them up yesterday and I asked them if I could get my 98.00 dollars back and that hey said no. I asd why and that they said they do not give any refunds back. the lady that I spoke to said that they told me that the atternays charge 990.00 dollars and that there was no refunds at all. the guy that was helping me with this his name was tom, they have not sent any papers to the court house or anyhing at all. all tom was doing was talking to me on the phone and teling me what I need to get for him and etc. not every timed I called tom I left a message on his answering machine and that I would have to wait and wait and wait fr him to call me back. I know that its a time difference, but that doesnt mean that u cant check your messages and call me back. if they have not done anything yet and they have not sent anything to the court and stuff, then I should be entileted for the refund.Desired Settlement: I would like to have my 98.00 dollars back in my account. if this is a way that they are going to cheat people out of refunds then they need to be in trouble and that they need to be coached.